Best way to show installed LTIs in the App center?

[phanley]

I just finished a support request claiming one of the LTI Apps installed in our root account was broken - in fact, what was broken was that the instructor had installed a second version of the LTI into their course - I'm assuming they didn't know the app was already installed -- if the instructor had looked on the "view app configurations" they would have seen it, but I don't think most users would do that. 

Another thing that seems troubling is that even though some apps (but not all) will show in the app center as "installed" if a user clicks through to the details view with the grey "Installed" box under the LTI logo - there is a much more visible +Add App button underneath which will allow the user to attempt to install the app again (and when I think through it as a user who understandably hasn't already noticed the disabled Ares link in their navigation choices, clicking +Add App seems like it would be the thing to do to add Ares to my course) -- in the case of Ares (we self host a server that has custom details) an instructor clicking +Add App will be a guaranteed disaster.

The problem seems a little more complex, but I don't want to TLDR people - my main points of inquiry/hope are:

1. Can the +Add App button be disabled for installed tools in any way?
2. Does anyone out there create "custom apps" that would appear in the app center for tools that don't show up there, or which are there but not correct? (e.g. I was considering using the whitelist to hide Ares but have custom version that would hopefully show up instead - although if I can't disable the +Add App button, I don't know if it will save us any future tickets...)
3. Is there a way to associate apps that should be connected to an app in the app center after the fact? 

Thanks for any solutions/experiences/ideas you may have to share!

[Robbie_Grant]

 @phanley ,

We are giving the Canvas Admins area a little bit of love (especially questions that are really, really old) and just want to check in with you.  This will also bring this question new attention. 

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Robbie

[phanley]

I never really got an answer, or I guess more accurately there wasn't an answer better than "it works the way it seems to work."   

I set up a whitelist on eduapps center and use that to disable apps we have installed (that don't register as installed on the apps page), and that works pretty well - the issue is tool discovery, and how to inform faculty that disabled tools exist in the moment when they are trying to figure that out.

It would be great if the whitelist view could get a list of installed LTIs from an organization's instance and it would be possible to mark tools as "installed" and associate them with already installed LTIs in cases where they don't show up -- and also to make it slightly more clicky if someone tries to reinstall an existing app. 

This might sound unnecessary except that here's what an instructor on our instance of Canvas sees in a new course when they navigate to Settings > Apps (in terms of installed apps):

Compare this to the actual list of apps that are actually installed at the root account level (and thus available to activate via Settings > Navigation or via assignments, etc. -- I bolded the ones that show up in the edu app center as installed:

Ares
Box
Campus Pack
Canvabadges
Cengage Learning MindLinks

Chat
Echo360
Ensemble Video
Examity
Google Apps
LibGuides
LTI Maps
Macmillan Learning
MH Connect
MyLab and Mastering
Office 365
Pearson Revel
PowerBi
Roll Call
SCORM Cloud
SCORM LTI
TED Ed
Turning Technologies Account Registration
Turnitin
Vimeo
VoiceThread
W. W. Norton.
WileyPLUS
YouTube

This is the disconnect that I'm trying to find an answer for - people go to "the app store" to add features, they don't check the navigation area, and in a few cases it causes support headaches because "ares is broken" or "the turnitin integration doesn't work" but what's really going on is that instructors don't realize/remember that the edu app store isn't a reliable indicator of what external apps are actually available. 

[kbickell]

Not sure if this addresses your main issues, but I think a step in the right direction:

https://community.canvaslms.com/docs/DOC-13988-canvas-production-release-notes-2018-01-27#jive_conte... 

[phanley]

Yes, that was a welcome change for sure!