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Accurate Breadcrumb Trail in Modules

Accurate Breadcrumb Trail in Modules

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It would be great if the breadcrumb trail would follow your navigation correctly when you are working in modules rather than switching to "page", "discussions", "assignments" or whatever you click on. Would it be possible to add a "modules" breadcrumb?

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stuart_ryan
Community Coach
Community Coach

*pokes*

Renee_Carney
Community Team
Community Team

Hi  @stuart_ryan ​

My apologies, but there is not update at this time.

stuart_ryan
Community Coach
Community Coach

Hi Renee,

Thank you for the update.

Cheers,
Stuart

ronmarx
Community Contributor

Deactivated user‌, while you're working on this, maybe you'd consider a very useful implementation that eases navigation through Canvas objects that are placed and organized using Modules? Please refer to an idea I just posted based on the type of work we're doing in our public school system.

https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/8612-create-relative-navigation-through-module-objects 

stuart_ryan
Community Coach
Community Coach

Hi  @Renee_Carney  Throwing out another 'is there any update on this' as my last check in was 7 months ago and this has now been in limbo for approximately a year.

Very keen to see some improvements on this front, and am wondering what the progress on development  has been.

Cheers

Renee_Carney
Community Team
Community Team

 @stuart_ryan ‌

I'm glad you checked back in.  I too had to do some additional checking here.

It does look like this project got set aside for now.  I am going to take it out of in-development and move it back to product radar.  The product team is very aware of this thread and desire.  This doesn't mean we won't do it, just not now.

stuart_ryan
Community Coach
Community Coach

Aww *sadPanda*, I do understand, and hope it gets visibility again at some point in future.

Thank you for checking in  @Renee_Carney  and getting an update for me.

Cheers,
Stuart

v_renolds
Community Participant

In the past 6 months we have migrated around 1200 students to Canvas from a Moodle LMS. The students are still adjusting to the change and navigation on browsers is a pain point. My view is that the option to swap the breadcrumb trail from 'pages' to 'modules' would be a significant enhancement. Is that what everyone else is thinking?

jpinto
Community Participant

I'd like to add another voice to this request. At our institution, we create a module for each class. We are currently putting the class topic in both the module title and in the page title of the page describing the class:

Module Title: Class 1 - Setting the Stage & Intercorporate Equity Investments: An Introduction

Page Title: Overview 1 -  Setting the Stage & Intercorporate Equity Investments: An Introduction 

We need the topic in the module because we pull module titles onto our home page so students can see the structure of their course. We need the topic in page title so students know which overview page they are on. 

Currently we're unhappy with what the student's see & the extra work required when an instructor or staff member needs to change the topic.

Updating the breadcrumbs so they show which module you are in would be a big improvement.

tcallen
Community Participant

I REALLY don't like the fact that I can start in a module, work on something, then be thrown out of the modules breadcrumb path. It is very confusing for students, especially in light of the fact that practically everything else should be turned off when you use modules for navigation.

This is an OBVIOUS problem/loophole/oversight. Please get it fixed!

aisling_wood
Community Member

I cant believe this isnt a thing yet! We have the "pages" page disabled as we want to direct students to the module structure, but when you're getting deep into the course you lose your place.

We have implemented banners that generate and have the title of the module and page title in them, to at least give the student some bearings

kristy_bergeron
Community Member

Glad to see this is on the radar--the current breadcrumb structure for modules, assignments, quizzes are all in need of improvement. 

kunal_ashar
Community Participant

It's been nearly 3 years since this was requested, with 200+ votes. Our students, many of them from around the world, consistently bring this up. Is there any indication as to when this might be implemented?

natasha_sutevsk
Community Member

Hi Aisling,

Did you manage to get banners to autogenerate the title of the module and page title? We were looking for a similar solution too. Would love to hear your approach.

Thanks,

Natasha

Renee_Carney
Community Team
Community Team

The Radar idea stage has been removed from the Feature Idea Process.  You can read more about why in the blog post Adaptation: Feature Idea Process Changes.

 

This change will only impact the stage sort of this idea and will not change how it is voted on or how it is considered during prioritization activities.  This change will streamline the list of ideas 'open for voting', making it easier for you to see the true top voted ideas in one sort, here.

glenaz
Community Participant

I know this topic hasn't been commented on for a while, so wonder if there is another thread/feature request that continued this discussion.  I appreciated all the comments, and understand the logic presented by  @James ‌ on the breadcrumb issue, so perhaps the feature folks are looking for aren't really breadcrumbs per se, but a guide to see where you are in the course/module based on how the instructor has set up the course.  Meaning, you would still have the existing breadcrumb (to know where the file, discussion, assignment, etc. lives), and additional window (that can slide-out, be minimized, etc.) to show the student where they are in the progress of the module.

I create a crude mockup image of what I'm trying to describe.  While a student/instructor is on a page/discussion/assignment, etc, there could be a slide-out/pop-up window that would have the same structure/functionality of the Main module page showing where you are in a particular module. This would be similar to looking back at the Table of Contents in a book to see where you are in reference to the rest of the book.

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I understand that some pages, assignments, etc. may be navigated to through a link and isn't part of the "module" hierarchy, but the pop-out window could show you where you were last so that a user can easily go back to the module if they went down some rabbit hole.

If there is a feature like this or a best-practice of using Canvas that I'm not aware of, I would love some insight.  If not, I hope this discussion continues b/c I too get feedback and complaints from students and instructors that they get "lost" in the modules and the course.

theotherdy
Community Participant

Hi  @glenaz ‌ - would this be of any use: GitHub - msdlt/canvas-where-am-I: Theme .js and .css to add within course navigation to Instructure ... . I'm very keen to find others who might be prepared to collaborate on this with me.

glenaz
Community Participant

Hi Damion,

This looks really promising (and a lot more feature rich than what I was looking for).  I'm getting close to finals now, but will definitely take a look at this over the summer and provide feedback.  My coding skills are a bit rusty, but would be happy to help collaborate on this.

john_hollenbeck
Community Member


This should not be treated as an option to be voted on. It's a broken interface feature, which needs to be fixed or eliminated. 

This is an instance where Instructure confuses feature with option. A breadcrumb feature is something that should accomplish the function of hierarchical navigation. Users are conditioned to use a breadcrumb trail to walk back in an orderly manner up the hierarchy of nested directories. In Canvas it is arbitrary. If the user is in a module on a page, then the breadcrumb offers to go to the pages list rather then the expected return to my place in the modules. And if Pages is disabled for students, then it says "You Can't Go There" even though it offered a live link to there. And then it takes you home with no way back to where you started save the browser back button. I have a cat that acts like that.

Users are confused by this arbitrary result and have to be trained not to expect the breadcrumb feature to act like it is supposed, but rather ignore it. And Instructure needs to fix that rather than holding popularity contests and using the results for not taking care of business.

djaffe0660
Community Member

I also agree - in feedback associated with our courses we are consistently seeing confusion in navigation at the top of the list. Request to have Course>Module>Section (if you have them)>Page Title as asked above would be much more intuitive for our users. 

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