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Allow "Display As" Options for Final Grade and Assignment Groups

Allow "Display As" Options for Final Grade and Assignment Groups

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We are in need of flexibility in displaying final grades and assignment groups similar to the way that individual assignments have flexibility in the way they display. For example, I would like the option to have a numerical average for total display and/or letter grade as a total display. So, if I have 3 assignments where a student scores a 3 in each assignment, that would be an average of 3. I would like "3" to display in the assignment groups column rather than 75%. Similarly, I would like the option to have a letter grade display, so if a student has 10/10 points in the assignment group, it would display as "A" instead of 100%. See screenshot below.

 

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The screenshot below is for configuring the display of an individual assignment. I would like to see a similar dropdown exist in the Assignment Groups configuration for a course. This would allow for some needed flexibility with regards to reporting when using non-traditional grading schemes in a course. Canvas is so close to "finishing the job" with allowing for flexible reporting. Please put this feature in, so we can truly use the grading schemes and individual assignment displays to their fullest extent.

 

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Kristi Levy Timothy Kohl Heather Kangas Tom Anfinson, please spread the word.

66 Comments
swatts
Community Participant

I like the "display as" idea. Our schools would prefer the grade be displayed as a whole number. We should have this option.

GideonWilliams
Community Champion

Fast forward two years......

mmikulski
Community Participant

Don't you mean, 'slow forward'? Smiley Wink I'm also surprised (or maybe, to be more

true to my feelings, I'm not surprised)... that this simple

feature/improvement continues to languish.

adam_zolkover
Community Participant

I wanted to circle around to this idea. Any chance it will make it into New Gradebook? Being able to hide numerical grades, and only display grading scheme 'letters,' would be really helpful for our non-credit learners.

mmikulski
Community Participant

Adam, there has been a lot of users circling back to this stalled feature

request, and no real motion from Canvas. I either think 1) Its somehow

technically way more complicated, than we are imagining it to be. Doesn't

seem so likely; I've coded some stuff before, and they have all kinds of

hide/show type options at present, for other things... or 2) They just

don't think this is important, to many of their K-12 customers. You and I

can assure them that it is, but I'm not sure where they'll go from there...

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:50 AM adam.zolkover@gmail.com <

spowell
Community Participant

I have asked for this feature on several occasions and I am also perplexed as to why there has been no action on this issue. I issue letter grades. However, when students see a combination of letter, percentage and points it is not only confusing but encourages continual 'negotiations' over grades.

Best wishes,

Shezwae Powell

Department Chair, Theater Arts

Mt San Jacinto College

Menifee Valley Campus

951-639-5793

spowell@msjc.edu

steven_chicurel
Community Member

My thoughts exactly!  While I have grading rubrics for classes (and I teach in the performing arts, where SOME of the grading (aesthetics, etc.) is somewhat subjective) and have for years, students who were satisfied with the "A" or "B" they EARNED (and UCF recognizes letter grades tied to grade points), now I have even some of my strongest students trying to negotiate a 95 up to a 99 or even 100!

GideonWilliams
Community Champion

Ive written a blogpost about my frustrations...

steven_chicurel
Community Member

Exactly!!

GideonWilliams
Community Champion
GideonWilliams
Community Champion

Another idea linked to this you might want to consider - https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/15337-mastery-display-grade-option-for-assignmentsdiscussions  especially for those offering vocational subjects or not interested in points/percentages scores but judgements..

gmoss
Community Member

Dear Canvas:

Instead of displaying a percentage (ie. 89.2%) in the Total category in the Gradebook both for instructors and students, why can´t the instructor choose how she would like to display the total? What I mean is that if we use standards based grading where a 3 out of 4 "meets expectations" and "meets expectations" corresponds to a B in the course, we should be able to have the final grade listed as a 3 in the total column instead of 75%.

Cheers,

Grant Moss

djohnson13
Community Participant

A brilliant selection of comments on this post, sadly no progress in this area as far as I can tell. We really need the ability to remove the percentage. If anyone has made some progress of their own I would greatly appreciate learning a work around.

We currently have tasks set to complete and incomplete, while marking with a rubric. The rubric gives us our overall achievement on balance over the course and the final grade is currently hidden due to the percentage and grade shown.

This is an example from 2020This is an example from 2020

 

We are now thinking about adding custom coding to fix it ourselves. We are in our first trials, but it's looking possible.

peppele
Community Member

@djohnson13 would you be willing to share the code? This is the route my institution is considering, but if the code is already written - no reason to recreate the wheel. Appreciate your consideration!

djohnson13
Community Participant

@peppele Sadly haven’t had time to write it as of yet and we are currently working towards Continuous Feedback using Canvas. 

If we succeed, I’d be more than happy to share on this thread and I’ll probably blog about it within the community. 

There’s definitely a huge need for it with assessment needing to direct students to improving achievement not looking at numbers. 

michelledennis
Community Member

@adjohnson You would be my personal hero - thanks for sharing your progress.

MeredithMoseley
Community Member

Our district Director of Instructional Technology reached out to Instructure personally about this issue, and the reply on 5/21/2021 was:

"While displaying the total as a letter grade will allow for this to populate only a letter grade in the Gradebook, the students view of their grades will show their overall score. This is intentional functionality in the traditional Canvas Gradebook as it's an 'old school' numerical based grade book. 

"That said, MasteryConnect and the Learning Mastery Gradebook (LMG) will allow for more traditional standards achievement tracking. If Meredith would like to provide a standards based experience, MasteryConnect or the LMG will be their best bet."
 
I'll be using Canvas starting in fall 2021, and I'm pretty shocked to see that people have been requesting the "hide totals/only show letter grades" capability since 2016 with absolutely no movement on the request. This feature is essential for teachers who are using standards-based grading and want grades to display as mastery levels and not points or percentages.
 
Meredith Moseley
MMoseley@cuhsd.org
LucianaRossi
Community Member

I would like to see this feature.  School Loop used to have it.

ken_i_mayer
Community Participant

It is imperative that instructors have the ability to choose how grades are communicated to students. Give us the freedom to offer either letter grades, numerical grades, or both. It makes sense that Canvas's underlying algorithms require each grade to have a numerical value, but there's no reason that that value needs to be shared with students.

Instructure, please! This fix should not be that difficult and would win so much good will among faculties and teachers everywhere.

Hiding stuff on a webpage is not rocket science, people.

Steph_30
Community Participant

In our school, nearly all colleagues agree that not being able to show the total score as a letter grade is a real issue. If the assignments can have letter grades, why do final scores have to be percentages?

Years ago, we deliberately switched from percentages to a different grading scheme (Very Good, Good, Fair, Weak), mostly represented as symbols (+++, ++, etc.). This way, students became more focussed on their actual skills and language learning, and were less likely to pointlessly compare numbers with each other. (Since the switch to Canvas, I've actually had a pair students asking me why one had a 76%, while the other had a 79%... Which means both scored as ++ 😑).

I've heard a lot of my colleagues say that having to work in percentages again is a big step backwards. The only option we currently see is to hide the final scores and offer our students feedback in separate documents, which is a real shame.