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Allow scientific notation (E format) in numerical answers

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Allow scientific notation (E format) in numerical answers

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Often students work with very large or small numbers, and need to enter numerical values such as "3.27E15" or "9.2E-6".  Canvas should allow this format in answers to numerical questions; it's so widely used in engineering and programming.
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This is an indispensable feature if Canvas is to be taken seriously by scientists and engineers.

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I know we had one of our gateway courses in the business school that teaches excel that had struggled to get excel formulas into Canvas Questions and answers on quizzes.  Would up getting things to work using HTML.  I got lucky in that my instructor was tech savy and could do such a thing but most are not.

This feature request seems to have a direct correlation with why our Math and Science departments are the slowest adopters of Canvas as we make the transition from our old LMS which really surprised me initially.  If something like this is a perceived barrier i would love to know that sucker down.

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I agree with jazemlya@iu.edu​ that this is specifically slowing adoption by our science and engg faculty.  This is a pretty serious issue that questions about numbers cannot handle basic number qualifiers.

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I am astounded that only a very few people have voted for this! Personally, I am starting to use other platforms for my chemistry classes. The Canvas people are simply way off the mark if they do not put in scientific/engineering notation and significant figures. WebCT could do this. Why cannot Canvas do it? Do they not have anyone who can program?

Prof. Milt Johnston

Dept. of Chemistry

University of South Florida

Tampa, FL 33620

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dittor@wharton.upenn.educhriscaschofer@morainepark.edu​ Deactivated user​ Deactivated user​ kona@richland.edu I would appreciate your support for this important improvement to Canvas

Surveyor

I don't deal with this directly with what I teach, but I could see where it would be useful for many faculty. Got my vote!

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Voted!

Community Member

I wish more people would vote! Without this Canvas is a joke!!!

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Milt Johnston

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Agreed, scientific notation is needed.  It may not be as simple as it sounds since there is another notation called "engineering notation."  What if a student enters something like "9.876E10 km" when the system expects "9.876E13 m"?  Will Canvas be able to accept either answer and recognize their equivalence?  Then there is the matter of denormalized scientific numbers.  For example, what if the student answers with "9876E10 m"?

It would be tempting to just make a rule that mixing engineering notation with scientific notation or using denormalized notation is wrong.  (e.g. Ignore the units so 9.876E10 km be recognized as simply 9.876E10, not equal to 9.876E13, and thus just wrong.  Likewise, 9876E10 might be simply declared the wrong answer on the grounds that this is not a correct format for a number in scientific notation.)  But there are contexts in the literature where these variations are accepted.  For example, kilograms are one of the six basic SI units, thus the "k" in "kg" can appear along with scientific notation.

I encourage the adoption of scientific notation but also recommend that the syntax be carefully designed.  I rather doubt that it can be done without also accommodating the inclusion of measurement units in the answers.  (kilovolts vs. volts vs. millivolts etc.)  Indeed, when I assign homework and the answer has units, I mark down if the student does not include the unit with the number, since the number is ambiguous without the unit.  e.g. "The speed limit in my town is 40."  Just how fast is that?  Do you mean MPH or km/hr?  In scientific and engineering work students can come up with correct answers in various units.  Here are some basic background articles.

Scientific notation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Engineering notation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BIPM - measurement units