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As student: view group sets in tabs

As student: view group sets in tabs

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The same view for students as for teachers, when looking at groups and group sets: One tab for each group set.

Thats how you see it as a teacher, but right now the students are in stead looking at a very long list of all groups in all group sets. It makes an overview impossible, if you during a course have 10 different group sets each with 10 groups.

Thank you,

Jeppe

25 Comments
30639324
Community Participant

Yes that would be very helpful indeed! I have an instructor who shared this exact same feedback.

https://community.canvaslms.com/groups/harvard?sr=search&searchId=c5f306c9-6140-4dbd-8a41-bb058a6f4f...

u0061533
Community Participant

Oh yes. The current form is unworkable. I have a class of 300 and this semester I tried a few partner assignments and pre-made sets of 150 groups for them to add themselves into. There were a lot of problems with this so I started to investigate and realized the student view took minutes to page through the long list of groups - all in alphabetical order. So they had to slowly page through A1-1 through A1-150 (10 at a time) to get to A2-1 through A1-150 and it was just ridiculous. This caused me all sorts of effort on my end to clean-up this disaster.

RobDitto
Community Champion

 @u0061533 , great comment, and thanks very much for voting this idea.

Slow loading of the student view of groups is considered a bug in Canvas, so please also feel free to report it as an issue to your institution's Canvas administrators (or directly if you're an admin), referencing issue CNVS-19640.

RobDitto
Community Champion

The slow-groups-loading issue, moved to a different tracker (COMMS-1118), was fixed along with the 2018-06-23 release. This should make the current design of groups for students much more supportable. 

(With that said, I'd still like to see an easier design for students who need to sign up for self-signup groups across several categories/sets in a course. Tabs would be one way to do that, provided a student can easily discover which categories/sets still need self-signup.)

christophe_bree
Community Participant

Why is the view for teachers different than the view for students? Keeping the tabs would make it so much more user friendly for the students. I guess the programmers at Canvas never use Canvas themselves 🙂 ?

amcknight
Community Member

YES -- I do many group assignments over the course of the semester, so by the end, the students "groups" page is just complete chaos, and substantial numbers of them fail to sign up for a group entirely, earning an undeserved 0, or worse, accidentally change their group for a completely different assignment and assume they are good to go (also resulting in an undeserved 0). It is hugely problematic and a giant PITA for me to sort out. If they had tabs like I do, signing up for groups would not be nearly as confusing for them.

webbw
Community Member

Yes, this is a major problem for students.  I cannot understand why it is set up the way it currently is.  It makes no sense.  For several quarters I couldn't figure out why students had such difficulty finding the groups they were in for different projects, but having had a student show me their view on the Groups page, I now get it.  This is a HUGE flaw in Canvas and needs to be corrected.

RobDitto
Community Champion

Very helpful comments,  @christophe_bree , amcknight and  @webbw . Charitably, I believe the Product team's intention at the time was to get links to groups all on one page for students. However, they might not have given sufficient weight to the case where several self sign-up group sets exist in a course.

To mitigate this, I recommend that teachers, whenever possible, turn off "Allow self sign-up" after students are done forming groups. That not only reduces the length of the groups page for students but also prevents students from switching -- which can complicate grading.

Of course, it will be better when Canvas improves the design of students' view of groups in a course! Still, for now, I wanted to offer the suggestion in the paragraph above.

petersg
Community Member

Thanks Jeppe and David for your description of the problems - I also face these with my courses.  Rob and David, I don't know how slow it was before June 2018 but its still annoyingly slow for students who see maybe 10 assignment groups, scroll down, wait for another 10 to load, scroll some more... extremely tedious if there are several hundred in total.  All the more reason to break it up like the teacher view does...

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dombroskim
Community Participant

So this idea was added more than 1 1/2 years ago in Feb. of 2018.  It's now October 2019.  Is there any forward progress in this?  It is seriously tedious and annoying for students to scroll through hundreds of groups (150 students in pairs for several assignments in a quarter) to sign up.  In addition, my 6th period must scroll through all 2-5th periods to get to theirs.  It's almost non-usable, but necessary for easier and faster grading.

ngh35
Community Member

I agree. Getting students to sign up for groups is almost impossible with a class of 400 students who work in several different groups throughout the semester. The functionality of the groups, otherwise, is very, very helpful and I would like to be able to continue using this function. Is there a timeline for making this happen?

brandt1
Community Member

I want to echo this - we have courses of up to 800 students and multiple group assignments in changing group compositions. The current view is horrible for students.

luukpessers
Community Member

As a student, I can definitely say that the current user experience is terrible and also unintuitive. The current solution: having to wait for results to show up while staring at a blank screen without a loading icon, is far from innovative.

The solution with tabs, similar to what teaching staff already has, would make the user experience much better.

merosa
Community Member

It's 2020 and students still need to scroll through long lists of multiple groups to find or sign up for groups. Please put them in tabs like the instructor view. Thank you:)

mjaksa
Community Member

I'd like to suggest that students be given the opportunity to view, in People, Group Sets organised in tabs, just like instructors.  In my large class, which I jointly teach with other academics, I recently established a group set, entitled 'Video Assignment'.  There were several assignments preceding this one that were set by my colleagues.  Since Canvas sorts the groups alphabetically, in order to self select their group members for my assignment, students must scroll down a very, very long list of groups before they reach mine.  Clearly, this is sub-optimal, and actually quite frustrating for the students.

May I suggest that this be addressed as soon as possible, as this significantly impairs student functionality in People > Groups.

Thanks.

petersg
Community Member

This is still an issue folks!  I field emails from students who have difficulty finding groups in long lists.  Even the long lists do not seem to be rationally ordered.  You've obviously got the code (for us teachers) so this shouldn't be a big deal to fix...

ThereseAkesson
Community Member

2021 And it is still very much annoying! The students wonder why they can't have the same view as the teachers? The group tabs are there in teachers interface, why not in the students? Doesn't make any sense. 

If I as a teacher could be able to hide different group tabs to make it easier for students to find the current group setting that would also be helpful. I don't necessarily want to delete every group tab but now I often do to make it easier for the students, to not scroll down in eternity. 

aod
Community Member
Students need access to the Group Sets (Tabs for organization) so they can see each set of groups separately for each assignment:
 
My students cannot Find the correct groups to join. Since they can only see a very long list of groups, and can't sort by Group Set/Tab instead of group name, my students cannot find the appropriate 3 groups in a list of 80+ (Course with 40 students, 1 Groups assignment, and 2 Pairs assignments). 
 
The Group Sets Tabs that are visible to instructors need to be accessible to students so they can navigate around many groups in different sets for different assignments.
 
Instructor View with Group Sets Tabs:
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Student View with List, Group Sets Tabs Missing:
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sthomas27
Community Member

Yes, please add this feature!  It is very frustrating for students.

Ambiguous
Community Member

Three years and they still haven't "fixed" this.  Canvas is soooo slow and dealing with "problems".