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Hide Assignment Group Totals from Students

Hide Assignment Group Totals from Students

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  Idea will be open for vote May 5th, 2015 - August 5th, 2015  Learn more about voting...

 

Instructors would like the ability to hide the automatically-created assignment group totals from students.

 

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For more information, please read through the Canvas Production Release Notes (2016-01-09) 

Grades

Hide Assignment Group Totals with Final Grade

35 Comments
snugent
Community Champion

Yes!! It doesn't make sense that the assignment groups columns display in the gradebook if the instructor is not weighting grades. This confuses students and faculty. I find myself explaining why they are there too often. If the instructor is not weighting grades, give them the option to hide them.

scottdennis
Community Team
Community Team

Removing "Ability to" from the title of this idea to make it more easily sortable with similar ideas.

mkrasnow
New Member

Yes, and this goes for the ultimate total as well!  Currently I have a grade weighting policy that i can't implement in Canvas and the fact that I can't hide the Total confuses students

ljdewitt
New Member

Basically, instructors need to be able to control ALL gradebook columns (show/don't show, points/percent).   No matter how many times you try to explain to students that they need to ignore something in the gradebook, it is way to confusing when it does count in some classes and not others. Please help us with this!!!!

kona
Community Coach
Community Coach

Deactivated user, you can hide the total (overall) grade. It's a feature under course settings under more options - What options are available on the Course Details page?

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cwruck
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni

Hey all,

First, we've already designed and are currently planning on implementing (later this year) the ability to hide any column in the gradebook. Yay! But that doesn't really solve the problem of how things display to students...

I'm a BIG fan of granting instructors more granular control over what they see in their gradebook and how grades are communicated to students. We're working on designs for a solution to this problem this summer. So, I have on my list of things to give instructors control over: how grades are displayed (points/percentage/grading scheme) for assignments, assignment group total and the total grade, with the ability to hide both the final grade and assignment group totals from students.

What do you all think? Am I missing anything?

ljdewitt
New Member

Dear Christi,

That is great news, but we also need the ability to show/hide ALL columns in the gradebook for any individual assignment, quiz, etc. and not just the final grade and assignment group totals. For example, I may not want any students to see their grade for an assignment until I have finished grading all the assignments for that class. Does that make sense?

Thanks for working on this!!!

cwruck
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni

Hi  @ljdewitt ​

You already have the ability to "hide" an assignment in the way you're mentioning. Canvas calls it "muting" an assignment. How do I mute an assignment in the Gradebook?

Or am I misunderstanding what you're asking?

cgiraud
New Member

We are trying to come up with solutions for hiding our gradebook in keeping with school policy which requires that averages be revealed only at times when there is sufficient critical mass for the average to have meaning, when students are struggling, and at mid-term. Currently it seems that muting might be a solution except that I understand that muting also means the grade does not figure into the average. Is there a way to maintain the grade's impact on the overall average while still concealing it?

Also we really need to be able to hide category averages, not just overall average as Kona Jones illustrates with her screenshot.

cgiraud
New Member

The other problem with muting is that a muted assignment doesn't figure into a student's average. This is REALLY confusing for students as our intention in using mute is to conceal the grade after the teacher has initially shared the grade. Once the assignment is muted (as all of ours will need to be), the student's grade no longer calculates making a laborious process for teachers to unmute everything in order to see the grade that needs to be reported in our SIS at official school reporting times.

cwruck
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni

Hey folks, We are developing the ability to hide assignment groups totals from students in a gradebook that will be in beta behind a feature flag this school year. We're going to be adding features like this to that gradebook all year and would love to hear your feedback on them. I'm going to archive this feature until we have it in beta behind the feature flag... just so this feature request doesn't live in limbo forever. Stay tuned!

KristinL
Community Team
Community Team

Hi Deactivated user ~ As we import copies of prior courses, teachers in my building wish that they could hide entire assignment group from student-view until there is an active assignment in that particular assignment group. (This way students only worry about the group of grades that they actually have assignments in...we don't want them getting ahead of themselves!) I know that Canvas Commons will help with this workflow in the future, but we have not yet rolled that out to teachers.

Yaz
Instructure
Instructure

Will this development extend to rubrics too? We may wish to create a rubric made of outcomes (e.g. graduate attributes or programme outcomes) where they could just be for competency i.e. no need to have scores display at the end of rows of rubrics or to calculate the total rubric score and to have the option to hide that too from students or altogether? Many thanks Deactivated user!

biray
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni

FYI: More feedback related to this idea over here: (by  @jeffrey_weimer ​)

jeffrey_weimer
Community Contributor

Thank you for referencing my request in this thread. I support the idea proposed in this thread as an appropriate solution to the problem I posed in mine.

Renee_Carney
Community Team
Community Team

This idea is now Under Consideration.  Find out more about the idea stages at What is the feature development process for Canvas?

mbader1
New Member

Hopefully Canvas will move toward this. In Blackboard, instructors were free to set whatever grading categories they wished. I have had more complaints about the Canvas grade book from students than I ever did with Blackboard. I get questions like "The grade book says my average is 115% but I have an F in the course. Why?" I have to continually explain I do not use certain features in the grade book. Can't wait for better options and more control over what my students see.

gvachon
New Member

I really like the fact that students can see their assignment results in Canvas. However, many students are just skipping straight to the "bottom line" and then arguing/questioning grades in ways that are not productive. We can hide the overall grade, but it doesn't take more than a minute to do the math if the group grades are visible. Please add the ability to hide group averages as soon as possible. It's a major impediment to our implementation of Canvas.

arovner
Community Contributor

Hi,

I'm so happy that you folks are working on improving the grade book features but did I miss a recent update?   I just had a faculty member contact me b/c her students can no longer see their "assignment group" grade totals in their grade book view.  She has always hidden the "total" grade b/c she teaches ESL and the total % isn't always relevant to whether or not a student passes that ESL level.  Anyway, this week her students only see dashes in those Assignment group total areas.  I suggested we check out her settings and, sure enough, when she unchecked the "hide grade totals in students grades summary", all the %'s reappeared.  This is a change in behavior and she's disappointed that she can't keep the Assignment group totals visible while hiding the overall group total.  She will go ahead and leave all visible and will try to explain that students should ignore the total but you know how that goes even with classes full of native English speakers.  This will much more challenging to get across to lower level ESL course students.

Anyway - perhaps this is coming but I thought I'd add her ESL class perspective to the conversation.

Thanks!

Amy

buellj
Community Contributor

Hi All,

Has there been any changes in functionality around this? We are now seeing the Assignments row hidden from student perspective when the instructor clicks the Hide totals in student grades summary and Hide grade distribution graphs from students checkboxes.