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LTI External Tools - Ability to Add Rubric

LTI External Tools - Ability to Add Rubric

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This is a resurrected feature: LTI External Tools and Rubrics

 

The original text provided by the one and only Chris Hofer is as follows:

 

"When creating an Assignment in a course that uses the Submission Type of External Tool (Example: Turnitin LTI app), there isn't a way to add a Canvas rubric after the Assignment settings are saved.  The work-around for this is to create an Assignment the normal way (and not selecting External Tool as the Submission Type), and then you can add your rubric.  Next, go back into the editing screen of the Assignment, and change the Submission Type to External Tool.  You can then access your rubric via the SpeedGrader for grading students.  It would be nice to be able to also have an "Add Rubric" button on the screen for those assignments submitted through an External Tool."

 

I don't think I could say it better. We really need this to smooth out the not-so-smooth workflow of adding a rubric to a Turnitin assignment. With how heavily many institutions use Turnitin, this is not so much a feature request as it is a "must."

85 Comments
stevenwilliams
Learner II

With Turnitin migrating all customers to their LTI tool, this feature would help customers maintain the same functionality offered by the existing Turnitin Legacy integration.

Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

Schools that are using outcomes in rubrics to capture measurements of course, sub-account, and account-level outcomes mastery don't want their instructors to use the TII rubrics to grade assignments and pass back grades; they want their instructors to use Canvas rubrics to assess mastery of those aligned outcomes. As we get closer and closer to the retirement of the Turnitin (Legacy) API, implementation of this feature idea will become ever more pressing.

jared_flaherty
Surveyor

Absolutely.  

What if they add the ability to attach a Rubric to any assignment in the course.    Meaning that after you create a Rubric in the Manage Rubrics section of the Outcomes tab, you can then link it to a assignment.

biray
Adventurer III

This idea has moved to the next stage and will be open for voting among the Canvas Community, from Wed. January 6, 2016 - Wed. April 6, 2016.

Check out this doc for additional details about how the voting process works!

asagun
Community Member

Just to note also, at this point students cannot view the rubrics at all when using the Turnitin external tool. What use is a rubric on the assignment if the student can't see it?

Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

asagun​, I will admit right up front that the interim solution I'm proposing is clunky, but it's one that I employed in previous LMSs: I create the rubric, take a screenshot of it, and embed it at the bottom of the assignment instructions.

tknapp
Community Member

I did figure out a way for students to view it, but in my opinion it is even clunkier than the one stefaniesanders​ suggested. If students access the assignment through Grades, there is an option to view the rubric in the upper right corner on the Submission Details page (see below). This is definitely not ideal, but the only workaround I've found other than taking a screenshot.

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themidiman
Explorer III

Users at our institution have had a VERY difficult time transitioning away from the legacy Turnitin API for this very reason. I've been telling them that assessment tools often exist in the external 3rd party assignment tool (in this case Turnitin) and may conflict with the ideologies that Canvas was created by. However the rubrics in the online submission type clearly outweigh the ones that may exist in Turnitin (according to those who have been using the legacy API up until now).

My hope is that Instructure and Turnitin can work something out that will allow the Online submission type to be used along with the LTI API version of their tool in a more seamless fashion so that it matches the user experience that is had via the legacy API.

While the Canvas and Turnitin blog posting by Dallas Hulsey is awesome, it cannot overcome the perceived limitations of the new way of working with the LTI API version. Lack of the ability for Canvas to conveniently display rubrics to the student is an absolutely huge disappointment thus far.

lvm55
Community Member

I would love to see this workflow improvement as well!

I wanted to add that it appears that you can do the workaround starting from an existing LTI assignment:

- Change the submission type to something else (like Online submission)

- Re-save the assignment settings

- Attach a Rubric per the usual instructions

- Go back in and switch the submission type back to LTI.

In my limited testing, this allowed me to see the Rubric in the Speedgrader, without permanently affecting the hookup to the LTI tool and without messing with the existing submissions.

This workflow (understandably) makes everyone nervous, especially when students have already made submissions to the LTI assignment, so it would be great to be able to add the Rubric without changing the assignment settings.

emily
Learner II

We are hoping to do a fair bit of LTI development for assignments that need to be graded by rubrics in Canvas. This would be a huge help!

buddyhall
Explorer III

Just because we need something from an external tool, doesn't mean we want to entirely leave the Canvas interface and workflow!

cgaudreau
Explorer III

Smiley Happy

And another reason why I love this community! Thank you for posting your workflows and suggestions. And of course I came here to late, but voted up because this is a good discussion to have.

jsparks
Instructure
Instructure

Hello Canvas Family,

This discussion is great and a process we are thinking about at the moment. We are looking to adapt the workflow to allow for rubrics on all sorts of assignments. I don't have a timeline for this particular feature, but know this is something are currently investigating. There will be more to come in a short while.

Jason

brueckert
Community Member

Thank you Deactivated user

Many have contributed their two cents on the importance of adapting Canvas to the new Turnitin LTI workflow, but to emphasize this further, I've had many conversations with former heavy Turnitin users at my school who are literally starting to lobby for us to migrate to a different LMS based on this messy user experience. Some of this is end of the school year stress messing with emotions, but the frustration is real. I'm hoping that a solution can be in place sometime prior to the new school year, if not this Summer to allow us trainers to be familiar prior to the return of faculty.

Again, thanks for the update.

Jeff_F
Adventurer II

May I opine that Turnitin is but the cherry on the cake or ice cream?  For me, if TII stopped working altogether it still wouldn't be a reason to change the LMS. But yes, the workflow is begging for improvement.

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ellen_evancheck
Surveyor

Students can no longer see the rubric so faculty have to copy the rubric before enabling Turnitin and paste it into their assignment instructions. This is another step they did not have to take before.

themidiman
Explorer III

One other thing to take note of: Any workaround by taking a screen shot of the rubric and inserting into the instructions is a potential violation of good accessibility practices. How does one write alternative text for a rubric screenshot that communicates the same thing as the actual display of the rubric in the user interface?

carla_patalano
Community Member

I second your sentiment.  This is appalling, quite frankly, given what our institution was "sold" on the intergration of these tools.  We have repeatedly stressed to students follow the rubrics and have spent countless hours into building customized rubrics for each assignment -  all for nothing now.  A workaround is unacceptable, and is costing us many hours of ridiculous busy-work. Why is TurnItIn dictating what can/cannot be seen in Canvas!?

carla_patalano
Community Member

We have to go in and revise HUNDREDS of assignments.  Absurd!!!!

epokryfki
Surveyor

In my district we use MIL for the language courses, blended and online, so being able to use the rubric would be very important for grading writing and speaking assignments.

I really hope to see this feature implemented soon! Smiley Happy