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Multiple Answer quiz question - partial points without penalty

Multiple Answer quiz question - partial points without penalty

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Currently the way partial points in a multiple answer quiz question works is to dock points for incorrect answers.  This is necessary, otherwise one could just select every choice and get full points.

 

But some faculty would like to give points for each correct answer without penalizing for incorrect choices.  This could be done if the number of choices became limited to the total number of correct answers.

 

So this feature idea is to add an option to the multiple answer question type that would limit the number of possible choices  a student could select to the total number of correct answers and allow for full partial points without subtracting points for an incorrect guess.

This idea has been developed and deployed to Canvas

For details, please read through the Canvas Release Notes (2020-04-18)

38 Comments
larkek
New Member

Agree, Rebecca. This has been going on for TOO long. As an instructor in a nursing program, the alternate style questions are RIGHT or they are WRONG. Our licensing exam scores these questions RIGHT or WRONG. For us to give partial credit is a disservice to our students.

If you have a patient and you have 3 out of 5 interventions to make and you only make 2, you have done the WRONG thing. If you do all 3, you did the RIGHT thing.

The choice was there. You didn’t chose it. You should have. It’s WRONG.

My institution won’t allow us to use the Beta version until it’s out of Beta so at least we know it’s being worked on.

Renee_Carney
Community Team
Community Team

The Radar idea stage has been removed from the Feature Idea Process.  You can read more about why in the blog post Adaptation: Feature Idea Process Changes.

 

This change will only impact the stage sort of this idea and will not change how it is voted on or how it is considered during prioritization activities.  This change will streamline the list of ideas 'open for voting', making it easier for you to see the true top voted ideas in one sort, here.

jmscheff
New Member

"Currently the way partial points in a multiple answer quiz question works is to dock points for incorrect answers.  This is necessary, otherwise one could just select every choice and get full points."

This is not true. If I have a 4 answer question worth 1 points and three of the answers are correct, it currently assigns (1 answers/3 correct=) 0.33 points per correct answer but does not assign value to distractors. A student marking all answers would actually get full credit and there is no disincentive to not mark incorrect answers. Make each answer worth the same fraction of question value and award points based on if it is correctly marked or unmarked.

ryeckman
New Member

Exactly.  Thank you Jason!

blong
Community Participant

To continue nudging this, we just came across this as well.  My test student account just took a quiz where there were 5 options, 3 were correct (in troubleshooting this for a faculty member).  I intentionally selected 1 correct answer and 2 wrong answers and scored 0 points.  The math as indicated on https://community.canvaslms.com/docs/DOC-13136-415243379  doesn't appear to be working properly.

rislis
Community Champion

Achange is needed in this regard.

RobDitto
Community Champion

 @blong ‌, that guide is for "classic" Quizzes. Based on the scoring you described your Test Student seeing, I believe your test must have involved Quizzes.Next, which has a separate guide here in the Community. Here's a link to the guide page explaining how Multiple Answers are currently scored in Quizzes.Next:

monica_coleman
New Member

Please fix this!! I have students who complain about the points every time we take a quiz with a question like this one. This type of question style is great because it allows us to practice for state exams (such as PARCC), but then it's frustrating because the students don't actually get credit for their right answers. I don't have time to check each student who actually answered part of the question right, so EVERY time we take a quiz, I have to go back and give EVERY student x # of points to make up for this systematic error.

larkek
New Member

We switched to administering exams with a different platform and exporting the grades (with NO points for partially correct SATA) to Canvas. In high stakes nursing classes, students always having a grade adjusted down is labor intensive for instructors and frustrating for students.

david_cook-2
New Member

I did not see the fine print on the rules of grading "multiple answer questions" and now have to go back and regrade 50 exams. This was the last straw for me with Canvas. It's clunky, rigid, and not very responsive to user requests. This thread was started in 2015 and at the end of 2019, NOTHING has been done.

monica_coleman
New Member

This makes sense. I think this would be a good idea, and it would resolve this issue!

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Stef_retired
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni
Comments from Instructure

This feature is now on Canvas Beta. For more information, please read through the https://community.canvaslms.com/docs/DOC-18579-canvas-release-notes-2020-04-18 

Stef_retired
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni
Comments from Instructure

This feature has been developed and deployed to Canvas. For more information, please read through the Canvas Release Notes (2020-04-18) 

 @mlewis23  Thank You for sharing this idea, and thanks to everyone who commented and voted. Your investment helped refine a feature that is now part of Canvas!

MBlarr
Community Member

I don't think that the original idea was translated in this new release (in 2020). Why?

As a teacher, I want to create multiple answer questions, where two out of five answers are correct and both correct choices account for one point (so each questions is worth 2 points in total). Nevertheless, if a student chooses one correct answer and one wrong answer, the total points this student should receive is one – exactly what has been requested also in the original thread ("No penalty with full partial credit"). If I understand the new functionality correctly, neither “partial credit with penalty” nor “exact match” make this way of counting possible.

An additional feature would be to be able to  assign “- 0,25” points for a wrong answer, but that is optional. No penalty with full partial credit would be totally sufficient. If the new release is really the answer to this, can you explain me how?

Thank you and best regards

Maria

pdk4
Community Member

I would like to see a additional grading option for each Multiple Answer question in which the penalty credit deducted for each incorrect answer chosen = the total question credit ÷ the number of INCORRECT answers (rather than the more standard number of correct answers).  This is especially important in questions where the number of incorrect answer choices exceeds the number of correct ones.  This way a student won't get zero credit for choosing some incorrect answers along with correct ones.  But by choosing all answers just to try to beat the question, the score would still end up being zero.  This option should be programmable in the same way as the existing algorithm for penalty point deduction based on number of correct answers.  It should offer considerably enhanced flexibility in the grading of such questions.

Another option would be to enable the quiz creator to specify individual additions or deductions in points or % for each answer choice.  This would require additional algorithm creation and programming.  But it is certainly feasible because Blackboard offers it in their options for grading Multiple Answer questions.

These options would help reduce students' confusion and dissatisfaction with the grading of such questions.  My colleagues also support these ideas.  Thank-you!

 

Stef_retired
Instructure Alumni
Instructure Alumni

@pdk4 Since the idea to which you've posted this comment has been completed, please write your comment as two new separate requests for enhancements to the multiple answer question type after reading through How do I create a new idea conversation in the Canvas Community? 

jmillner1
Community Participant

From what I can tell and in assigning these types of questions this year, the issue has not been addressed. Am I missing the option for partial credit to actually assign partial credit WITHOUT penalty for a wrong answer? With our new state standardized tests, these questions are great practice. However, if I cannot assign the correct point value then why use it? 

pdk4
Community Member

The problem with simple 1/n scoring for Multiple Answer questions is that if there are more incorrect answers than correct ones, the deductions for incorrect answer choices overwhelm any credit given for correct answer choices so it easy to get a score of zero even though correct answers have been selected. I suggest the option of giving credit for correct answers on the basis of 1/n_correct while deducting credit for incorrect answers on the basis of 1/n_incorrect if the number of incorrect answers exceeds the number of correct answers. This way a student gets zero for trying to game the question by selecting ALL the answers but gets due credit for correct answers while still being only partially penalized for incorrect answers. As I said, this should be available as an OPTION should users wish to utilize it. The other option of no deductions for incorrect answers can still be another option for users to select. The 1/n_incorrect as described here should be given high priority in new development!