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Multiple Due Dates (checkpoints) for Discussions

Multiple Due Dates (checkpoints) for Discussions

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With the way that many schools set up forum discussions and require "check-ins" to the forum throughout the week, it would be great if we could include multiple due dates in the discussion activities. For instance, I have classes that require everyone respond to the prompt by Thursday night and respond to at least 2 peers by the following Sunday. Being able to remind students that they have responses due, especially if we could scatter responses over multiple days, would likely increase participation.

 

<Sorry if this is a repeated idea. I couldn't find it elsewhere and I'm a newbie>

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alexander_pho
Community Member

Hi All,

Likewise this would really help with increasing participation/engagement in a thread in my opinion. One other feature that may be helpful--at least for us--would be the option of having the first checkpoint due date for one subset of the class, and then another checkpoint(s) for another subset of the class.

I'll give you some context and an example: 

   In many courses we have two group sets titled: Study Groups and Teams. Within the Teams group set are many groups, let's say 20 groups total, each consisting of 5 students that collaborate together (this gives us 100 students in total). Each Team group is labelled and assigned to a TA that is responsible for managing their respective groups. The Study Groups group set is composed of 4 larger overarching groups where the 20 groups are divided into based on the TA. Thus, within the Study Groups group set are 4 groups, and each group contains 25 students all from various teams that are assigned to the same TA.

   Now we have a graded discussion that has a two components to it. The first component requires that a team reporter or lead posts the team's findings on behalf of their team in a group discussion that is assigned to a Study Group group, so that the other teams are able to see the post. The next component requires the other teams to post a reply and offer feedback to each reported finding. 

It would be helpful to have the first portion/checkpoint of the assignment assigned to the team reporters, and then have the second checkpoint of the assignment assigned to the other groups.

We currently are using one thread for the team reporters' posts and then another group discussion thread for the larger study groups, but this requires that the team reporters post a second time in the larger study group group discussion threads for the other teams to access. In addition, there isn't a due date or To-do item that reminds or informs the team reporters to post a second time in the larger study group discussion thread.

Hope this makes sense!

Alex

ematthew
Community Participant

Perhaps the student would see two due dates (side-by-side, or stacked) in the Modules screen and both due dates would populate their "To-do" list.

lcroney
Community Member

I find it outrageous that this doesn't yet exist. It's such a no-brainer how badly it's needed. And it has been requested over and over, though the request threads seem to disappear. I know I requested it when my university moved from Blackboard to Canvas more than five years ago. All kinds of extra bells and whistles and garbage get added every year, but not this very basic and fundamental tool for increasing and rewarding participation in discussions. It's almost as though there is a prejudice against anything but right and wrong answers in Canvas, as though discussions are not necessary. It's so frustrating to be facing this lack again. These companies like Canvas make all kinds of promises that they just don't keep.

lindsapj
Community Member

Lisa,

Vociferously agree on all points. Have read dozens of supportive emails on this topic. Don't know why this can't get done.

Patrick Lindsay

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garth
Community Champion

lcroney‌ I can't agree with you completely, as I have seen Canvas address the needs of the Community.

Updates are prioritzed based on needs of their customers, as well as ideas that are posted in the Community.

It's a balance.  I believe they do their best to determine which updates bring the greatest value to the platform.

This idea does say it's on the product radar, so they are looking at it.

lcroney
Community Member

I don't want or have time to argue, but you speak as a representative of the Canvas through your corporation that sells the Canvas platform to schools, not as a teaching faculty member, and I think that makes a huge difference in your sense of responsiveness and timing. I am sure there are overwhelming demands and that they have a difficult task in prioritizing them. But this should be a relatively simple thing, according to my brother the programmer, and according to other platforms that have had such a feature for more than a decade.

Lisa Roney

lindsapj
Community Member

I am a full time faculty member at a major university b school that has been asking for this for two years.

Patrick Lindsay

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dhulsey
Community Champion

Garth works for a university. I work for a community college. Neither of us work for Canvas.

Anyway, I would like this feature as well, but there are some reasonable workarounds. One of the easiest is to make the due date in canvas when the last post is due in and tell your students each post you require must have a minimum of 24 hours elapsed time between each post. Glancing at time stamps in speedgrader is no big deal. I hope that helps, lcroney

boles
Community Participant

Full support for all these comments. Canvas: get it done!

Jeff_F
Community Champion

I've done it the other way with setting the due date for the initial post. That approach seemed to work well enough.  And if I really wanted to I could create a 0-point, no submission assignment so a reminder shows on the list.   That of course clutters things up a bit but it sure is doable should someone need it now.   Hic est...

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dhulsey
Community Champion

That is actually the way I do it too, Jeff. I only offered the time lapse option because my adjuncts seem to like that one better. Either works fine, and my students seem to function fine as long as I tell them what the rules are. Still, a built in option in assignment creation would make things smoother as many have noted here. 

langlangcat
Community Contributor

Just wondering do we have any progress on this yet?  My faculty always complain about the late initial posts of their students and of course no time for follow-up replies. 

alexander_pho
Community Member

For us, at least for some of our Professional programs that are entirely online, this really helps to facilitate due dates and would make tracking submissions a lot simpler--especially for courses with up to 100+ participants.

boles
Community Participant

Me too.  0-point, no submission, not graded assignment.  Too much clutter and too much work creating all the settings.  This needs to be done.  It's basic.  

boles
Community Participant

@ Garth Egbert: Probably true, they will consider the suggestion.  But the bigger and louder the movement, the sooner it'll get done.  : - )

npacheco
Community Participant

Normally I would not mind if most professors understand the workings of how set up a discussion with different due dates efficiently, but most of my professors assign multiple due dates yet only establish one in canvas. It's usually the one that includes the replies. However, at the very least, the due dates should reflect the initial post and then extend the availability of the discussion a few days beyond the due date in Canvas for the replies. I had an excellent professor send out announcements and reminders for every initial post due date even if this wasn't clear in Canvas. I am diligent about setting my own reminders but most students being so new to Canvas, they may not have the knowledge or experience to do so. I do hope to see some workaround that makes it better for both professors and students. 

hensonj
Community Participant

Wondering the same thing. Its been 2+ years.

gmm193
Community Participant

This is apparently low on the priority list it seems for Canvas but this functionality is ESSENTIAL for Penn State and particularly for World Campus. All best practice courses offered through WC for online teaching suggest creating more community in this way for students (i.e. initial and follow up posts with ansynchronous due dates). Work arounds are exactly what they are -- temporary bandaids for something requiring a more permanent fix.

BEst,

- Glenna

lindsapj
Community Member

Baffles me how they do not see the importance of this.

Oh, when there is a lack of competitive pressure...

Patrick Lindsay

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boles
Community Participant

Agreed!   WHEN>?????