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New Quizzes: Allow Quiz Regrade for Questions Linked to Banks

New Quizzes: Allow Quiz Regrade for Questions Linked to Banks

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We heavily use the question bank folders to keep our questions organized.  We create them in the banks since it is the only way to keep them from going into an "unfiled" folder.

The regrade feature needs to be allowed for questions linked to banks.  If the question is wrong in one quiz, it is wrong everywhere so I fail to see what it matters if it is referenced multiple places.  Regrading is critical to fair grading and it makes no sense to either be stuck with a choice between a completely disorganized question database and losing the regrade option.

64 Comments
mannygites
Community Member

It's sort of a joke that this feature is not supported.  We are building an online teaching platform that is based entirely on Canvas.  Who wants to sit there and fix 400-500 individual student grades?

manels23
Community Member

I couldn't agree more. I had to manually fix 450 grades and it took about 10-12 hours. It seems unreasonable that we have been "voting" on this for nearly 5 years.

sseymour
Community Member

4+ years later and this isn't fixed / added?  

Have had to move to elearning due to COVID-19 and finding that the online quiz tools issued by Canvas are probably not worth the price tag!

michael9
Community Participant

I work with technology every waking hour of my life, and you can just tell when people developing software have a genuine passion about it, and just push and push to make it the best they possibly can. I think about Xcode, an IDE that Apple develops; Flutter, a technology from Google; and Visual Studio Code from Microsoft; finely honed tools that just feel like the designers never let their engineers run the show. Canvas is, I am sorry to say, not in this category. It is a walking advertisement for bad UX decisions that cost their users, collectively, millions of hours a year in frustration and lost productivity.  I know this sounds harsh, but Canvas is *not* a cheap product, used all over the world, and its users -- teachers and students alike -- deserve better.

kmcgrath
Community Participant

For the first time this semester, I went to the trouble of setting up a question bank, and now I find that I can't run re-grades.  This issue was raised 5 years ago, and at that time, apparently some of the up votes were counted as downs.  How can we "re-grade" the voting here?  Please re-open this issue for voting.  

d_hupkes
Community Member

Please implement this! It would save so many of us so much time, especially now that we are all "covid19-teaching".

wojtkowskik
Community Member

So what is up with this suggestion? Do we need to resubmit it since it failed 5 years ago? I link to question banks because it is easy to randomize questions. In addition, if I move those questions to the quiz, they are gone from the question bank. I have realized several times during this quick 4 week course that I have not chosen the correct answer for the question. Students ask me about it, I change it in the question bank (so when I relink to that bank for the exam it is at least right there), however I have to manually go in and regrade that question on the original quiz for EVERY student! I think once I got a notification that the quiz had changed and did I want to save it and it showed up as regraded on several students' gradebooks, but I have no idea how I made that happen!

dgj538
Community Member

I didn't see this initially and just submitted the Idea, but then got directed here by Canvas. Here's my two cents for good measure. Canvas, PLEASE listen to people (5 years people have been asking for it?!?) and make this change!!!

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Question banks are a great way to provide students with unique, randomly populated exams. Used together with options like one-at-a-time, no backtracking, and providing a quiz timer, I feel confident in providing students tests they can take remotely, as these options render collaboration almost useless.

 

HOWEVER, it's also very easy to make a mistake like selecting the wrong answer when creating questions (I just had this happen), and the ability to modify questions after the quiz has been taken and regrade accordingly is a MUST.

 

UNFORTUNATELY, Canvas currently does not support regrading of quizzes whose questions are drawn from banks, which from my perspective renders the question banks feature nearly useless, as there's no room for error in the creation process.

 

The reason given doesn't make any sense to me: "Quiz regrade does not apply to questions linked to a question bank since questions may be used in more than one quiz." SO WHAT if the question is used in more than one quiz?!? If I messed up and selected the wrong correct answer in an MC quiz, even if that question has been used more than once I still want the option to fix my mistake and regrade every quiz where students erroneously received the wrong grade, without having to manually grade every exam.

 

PLEASE, Canvas, allow us to regrade quizzes with questions drawn from question banks!!

dgj538
Community Member

"... much closer to a bug than a feature request." Agreed 100%. Cost me a couple of hours to manually regrade, and still the problem isn't really fixed—just student grades are fixed, but the wrong answers are still shown as being "correct". It's just silly that they haven't fixed this.

jte076
Community Member

Agreed. Not being able to regrade quiz questions that come from a bank make the banks a pretty sketchy tool. We make mistakes. All we need is to be able to manually fix them. Thx.

gliese876d
Community Participant

HOW IS THIS NOT A SOLVED PROBLEM YET?! Seriously??  What kind of amateurish LMS system does not allow a re-grade from test bank questions?

sarah_carlson
Community Member

Google forms quiz option and gradecam both offer this feature. It would make teachers' lives much easier. 

mjohnson1001
Community Member

With COVID forcing online exams in many cases, using question groups is a great way to switch up exams to encourage students to do their own work.  It is RIDICULOUS that we can not fix mistakes in questions and get a regrade without manually going through EVERY exam to update the grade.  PLEASE fix this so that updates in the question bank update in quizzes where they are used!!!!! Absolutely ridiculous that we still have to be asking you to fix this after 5 years.

kclancy
Community Member

You are a service we pay for and you should provide the features we need not the ones you think are important. Five Years and you still haven't fixed this problem. Regrading quizzes is an incredibly important feature and the fact that you make it available demonstrates this but if I build my quizzes using banks, which you recommend, I cannot. Now one error has to be fixed manually for thirty five students across 4 class sections...Unacceptable BS

dustindummer
Community Member

To clarify, I believe the original post is saying that questions pulled from pools into Quizzes (or any assessment) should be linked. If that is correct I fully agree. If you update a question in an exam it should update the original question in the pool and any assessment that contains the question. That's how it works in Moodle and I assume Blackboard. 

ryanmartinez
Community Member

Agreed. I have multiple faculty who have to use question banks because of how new.quizzes breaks everything when you import from classic quizzes and not being able to have this functionality is galling. If Instructure paid more attention to basic functionality over confetti there would be a lot less disgruntled faculty. 

acgray
Community Member

I also don't think the question bank is a useful tool without the opportunity to regrade quizzes when a wrong answer was accidentally coded. 

milesl
Community Contributor

We're encouraging instructors to use question banks to randomize question selection and reinforce academic integrity, but instructors are (rightfully) pushing back because of this limitation.

Not being able to re-grade a question from a question/item bank makes grading harder and disincentivizes one of canvas quizzes/new quizzes most valuable features (ability to randomize question selection).

lemonsle
Community Participant

As usual Canvas finds a way to screw with faculty who are just trying to provide the best possible experiences to students. Why hasn't this been fixed yet? Canvas prides itself on "opportunities for new ideas" but five years is just ridiculous for something to come into fruition. I'm really not looking forward to hand-adjusting hundreds of grades, but thanks to Canvas' inability to provide what users request, that's what I'll be doing. 

KochRose
Community Member

LET PROFESSORS DECIDE IF IT IS OK TO REGRADE QUIZZES PULLED FROM QUIZ BANKS! SCROLLING THROUGH 300 STUDENT QUIZZES TO THE BOTTOM TO SELECT REGRADE IS RIDICULOUS. FIX THIS NOW!!! LOVE THE USE OF QUIZ BANKS, BUT THIS MAKES ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS AFTER QUIZZES ARE TAKEN IN LARGE CLASSES UNTENABLE. IT IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET THIS PROBLEM EXISTS AND MANY COMPLAINTS ON THIS SITE- JUST DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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