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New Quizzes: Multiple Answers in a Formula Question

New Quizzes: Multiple Answers in a Formula Question

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This idea is based on extending the Formula Question type to allow for multiple answers to be entered by students.

 

Currently, the Formula question type is fine for simple calculated answer questions that only ask for one final response from students. We have several instructors that would like to generate data based on ranges, but also to ask for several answers based on that generated data.

 

One example of this would be a financial statement or budget sheet. Instructors and Designers would like to generate random data elements for some parts of these sheets, but ask for multiple answers from the same set of generated data such as the following list of questions:

"What is the Inventory Turnover? What is the AR Turnover? What is the AP Turnover? What is the Inventory Period? What is the AR Period? What is the Operating Cycle? What is the Cash Cycle? What is Net Working Capital for 2013?"

Each answer is based on the same data, but uses different formulas to determine the correct result.

61 Comments
tpavlic
Community Participant

What you suggest was possible in conventional Quizzes as well (where you would insert the data set or graph as a "Text" question before a sequence of other questions based on it). But this won't help with formulas. The goal is to generate a set of random numbers (different for each student) that can be pushed through multiple formulas to generate multiple answers consistent with that random set (e.g., "Calculate the mean and variance for this sequence of numbers").

If Canvas had a way to generate random numbers/data in a stimulus and then have multiple questions following it refer to those, then that would solve this problem. However, stimulus questions are static; no better than the old "Text" questions in conventional quizzes.

cindyk
Community Participant

Now I understand this situation. I rarely use formula questions because I live in the world of exact answers, where fractions, radicals, and pi are often required. And don’t forget complex numbers. At least, you have the option to use a formula. I’m pushing for partial credit on fill-in-the-blank questions for student who give decimal responses that are not exact.

tpavlic
Community Participant

In fact, complex numbers (in a specified form, as in Cartesian or polar, for example) are exactly the kind of thing that motivates this kind of request. If you ask a student for an answer that results in a complex number, you need them to give you two numbers, but Canvas forces you to use scalar answers.

apetruska
Community Member

There are many times in engineering and physics where the answer is multiple numbers. For example anything with vectors or matrices.

This is an essential feature.

tderrick
Community Member

This issue is preventing me from giving online exams. Please work on this.

SBhattacharya
Community Participant

wow.... 4 years ago this was brought up and yet, no development on the feature that is going to be a life changer for administering quizzes

canvas really amazes me that how it is being so handicapped could even capture the market it did... of all the LMS's I have used, this got to be the most undesirable one

RichJohnston
Community Member

Canvas, how is this not a thing yet! It looks like it was escalated about 4 years ago, going through the replies.

Sabin76
Community Member

The fact that I still can't do this after 4 years is disheartening.  Especially with all of the distance learning happening due to the pandemic, making Canvas assessments that are secure is more important than ever.  One of the better ways to do this is to make sure there is enough randomization in the questions that students can't simply text each other the answers.  This is, of course, in addition to all of the other points that have already been brought up.

rsorensen
Community Member

I cannot help but actually register just to add my voice to this.  Why has it been 5 years and it hasn't been added I don't know.  Maybe there are some major technical hurdles in the way questions are built on the back-end.  But, dang Canvas, this would make my life (and my students' lives) so much easier.  

gpapkov
Community Member

I love this!  Right now, we have to create multiple Formula Questions to accomplish this, when it would be best if it can be contained in a single problem.  

gpapkov
Community Member

Multiple Blanks question types are useful if each blank has a unique, unrelated answer.  My issue is with a question like "(x^2)-1=0 has roots [blank1] and [blank2]".  The answer is +1 and -1; however, at present, I need to write the question as "(x^2)-1=0 has roots [blank1] (smaller root) and [blank2] (larger root)".  I would like to set +1 and -1 as possible answers for each blank, but for the system to know that if -1 was put in [blank1], then [blank2] cannot be -1 too (and vice versa).    

coxmic
Community Member

And we are now 5 years later with no progress toward having this feature.

A basic quadratic formula question has two correct answers from the same question.

caw
Community Member

Add me to the list of people befuddled as to why this isn't a thing. All my (accounting) exams are structured this way - one setup and two to six questions based on the setup. I want my students to be able to retake the exam, but not with the same numbers they had the first time, and I can't give them a different setup for each individual question - the time required to process each setup would be ridiculous.

fhernan
Community Member

Absolutely frustrated by the lack of this feature, which is essential in science and engineering. Formula questions are essentially worthless if we limit them to only one answer per dataset.

apetruska
Community Member

Agreed. This is a critical feature that is lacking.

muztobaahmad
Community Member

I need this feature badly!

vectorpotential
Community Member

Please implement this feature.

Also, why am I unable to give Kudos to this thread?

muztobaahmad
Community Member

This is extremely frustrating that this is not a feature till now. With 10 mins of searching I found more than 10 idea conversations (that are highly rated by many) started since 2015 that are requesting for this exact feature for last six years (at least).

I don't see any reason how this feature can take more than a few hours of coding effort from the development team.

I wonder if there is any vile reasoning behind this. For example, this feature would discourse instructors from using textbook publishers' platform (which gets integrated with canvas) that provides this exact feature of having unique problem solving questions with multiple parts for each student.

I really hope the Canvas authority will understand our frustration and allocate a few hours of development work for this feature.

Brazedowl
Community Member

I'm a physics teacher and many times our questions start with a prompt which includes all the values needed for the rest of the question. Example:

"Your 80kg teacher is standing on a uniform 15kg board that is supported by two ropes T1 and T2. The board is a total of 10m long and your teacher is 3m to the left of center. When rotated with a pivot at one end, teacher-board system has a moment of inertia equal to 2/3ML where M is the combined mass of the board and teacher and L is the length of to board."

From here they need to make decisions about what values to use, what formulas to pick to answer all the rest of the questions. Formula questions are great, but only allow for one answer.

If I break it out piecemeal with, separate formula questions, then I'm leading the student by the nose through the problem. It will be instantly clear what formula to pick, what concept to use, what values to use. It dramatically decreases the rigor of the question, AND it is not how the questions are presented on the AP exam. 

Two solutions would be allowing for multiple answers on one formula question, or defining the variables globally for the entire quiz so they could be shared between multiple formula calculations. I really like the second option more.

Yes. I have googled this. I checked the suggested similar questions. If there is an obvious solution I'm missing sure I'll take it. But this is something that many people have asked for as far back as the original implementation of formula questions.

fhernan
Community Member

Status: "Open for conversation since 2015".

This is a bad joke.