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New RCE - pin the sidebar

New RCE - pin the sidebar

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This idea has been developed and deployed to Canvas

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While I'm loving getting familiar with the new rich content editor my biggest annoyance is that the insert sidebar disappears every time I add a link or image. As a course designer this is greatly slowing down the way I build content in the RCE. It would be great if once the sidebar appears after you have chosen to insert a link or image that you could pin it open so if you are wanting to add multiple images or links then you can, instead of having to repeat the process every time. I'm finding this to be slowing down the content creation experience not enhancing it.

41 Comments
jwadec
Community Contributor

I would absolutely love this -- in fact, I came here to check if there was already an idea submitted on this before adding my own. I could see a little thumb tack being added to the top of the fly out panel. If selected, it will keep the window open until closed manually by clicking the X.

Example mock-up with small thumb tack above the Add header:

Example of a thumb tack added to the fly-out panel. In this instance, the thumb tack is not yet selected.

Once selected, the panel is persistent. It would also be nice to see all the text editor content move over to manipulate all the real estate of the text editor.

Example mock-up after thumb tack was selected:

Example of a thumb tack added to the fly-out panel. In this instance, the thumb tack is selected.

tina_busch
Community Contributor

Hi Justin, yep that's exactly what I was thinking Smiley Happy

j_c_turner
Community Contributor

this UI suggested change just makes sense! we shouldn't really have to suggest this as a change. 

jim

jeffbailey
Community Member

Great suggestions on this.  The new RCE is nifty and clean, but without this change it will be hard for schools to adopt it because it adds too many steps to any time you add a file.

lauren_sayer
Community Contributor

the new rich content editor is a major downgrade to our school.  We had teachers uploading files quickly and the new editor has slowed it down considerably.  Now we have to insert files one at a time and I have many grumpy teachers unhappy with canvas. 

jwadec
Community Contributor

Here is a related idea: https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/15771-new-rce-multiple-file-upload  I think both ideas have some overlap but enough to be considered separate. 

tina_busch
Community Contributor

Exactly Jeff, couldn't agree more, we have not yet turned it on for our organisation due to a few issues but this being the main one. Thanks for supporting it.

marthazumack
Community Contributor

The organisation of files is still problematic (defaulting to oldest first makes no sense for our institution), but this idea would definitely help!

anthony_sales1
Community Participant

Yes this makes adding a series of links on a content to a series of items very slow and time consuming especially if the items are quite a way down the list. Surely the Add list should stay open until we close it by clicking on the cross at the top right.

mfulton1
Community Participant

I could not agree more. If I have counted correctly it now takes about 5 clicks to add a file/image instead of the 2 in the original RCE. Other issues are that the default for displaying the files is oldest first and the files are pulled from the folders that they are stored in. Present the list with the folders

90346946
Community Member

Definitely agree with the issue here and comments above.  As an instructor I find that linking to existing course content is definitely worse with the new RCE.  When a site has lots of pages, there is a lot of scrolling, clicking "load more" (repeat, repeat, repeat).  And then you start that process all over.  Ability to pin the sidebar would help alleviate that problem.

tchilt
Community Participant

We are getting several comments from our faculty about this. The new RCE has drastically increased the number of clicks necessary to embed course files. Instead of having to pin the sidebar, perhaps it stays open until it's closed. There could be an "x" where the pin is in the mockup above. Every time you highlight text to create a link to a file, you have to click the Course Documents icon and go through that process again. It's repetitive and frustrating.

tina_busch
Community Contributor

Hi Todd, we have set the new RCE feature to Allow instead of On due to this reason. Let's hope it gets looked at before being forced on for everyone in June.

jwadec
Community Contributor

Thankful for one school system pleading for an extra 5 days -- they (Instructure) have moved the date to the July release so we get an extra few weeks. I do hope within the next few months that they address a lot of these issues.

Nancy_Webb_CCSF
Community Champion

I totally agree  @mfulton1 , show the folders when inserting images, like you see when inserting a link to Course files.  This method of seeing a handful Course images at a time, not ordered for easy searching, is not going to work for so many courses that have hundreds of images (art courses for one).  Unfortunately displaying images by folder is not part of this idea. Do we need another idea for voting?  I foresee big trouble down the line.

It would also be helpful to choose the destination folder when uploading images/media.  When you upload images for a particular quiz, it would be so great to have them go into a particular folder rather than "Uploaded Media".  Now I am really off track!

Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

 @Nancy_Webb_CCSF ‌, folders will display in the image selection process; however, the workflow to view the folder hierarchy when selecting images is new. From the Image dropdown on the new RCE menubar, select Course Images, and then select All from the dropdown to view the folder structure. 

Nancy_Webb_CCSF
Community Champion

Thank you stefaniesanders- I had looked at the menubar choices, but it all looked the same - didn't delve deeply enough!  That is great and will help  @mfulton1  and everyone.  Maybe someday that will be available when you use the Toolbar option also.

Nancy_Webb_CCSF
Community Champion

Oh dear - I just actually tried it out, and when you choose All as the location for inserting images, it puts a link to the image rather than inserting the image. So that is not really a solution.  Unless stefaniesanders you know of a way around this limitation?  I suppose one could go into the HTML code and change the link to be an img tag, but that's asking a lot of most instructors. (It actually requires a few small changes, but many don't feel comfortable working in HTML.) 

I also found the All choice on the tool in the toolbar, so it is not necessary to go to the menu.  Both the All's insert links to the image.

Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

Wow,  @Nancy_Webb_CCSF , you are absolutely correct: I am so sure that I have tested that multiple times before now, and yet, when I tried it just now, the action results in a link—not the desired embedded image. Would you be willing to create a new idea for this? I'd be happy to work with you on getting that moved forward.

Thanks, and mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Smiley Happy 

Nancy_Webb_CCSF
Community Champion

Encouraged by stefaniesanders‌ I created an Idea to have a folder view when choosing images for embedding.  I think it goes hand in hand with this pinning idea to make image selection better for us all.  Would appreciate your vote,  @mfulton1  and 90346946‌ - and anyone else who thinks viewing images by folder would be helpful.

https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/16822-new-rce-embed-images-from-folder-view