In order to assess and grade a student on participation in the discussion boards, it would be helpful to be able to see all of that student's posts aggregated on a single page.
Totally aside from grading, I think this is something that Canvas could/should do in order to create a sense of PRESENCE for the students. I wish the Profile page worked more like an aggregator, bringing together the work the student is doing in each course and across courses. That way, it would be possible not just for the instructor to get a sense of "who" the student is, but other students could really connect with one another as well. Right now, the profile page is pretty much a dud: very limited, very static, pretty much totally boring. It's hard to really get to know people-as-people in the Canvas space.
I think it would be great for instructors and fellow students alike if each students' contributions to a course (and, ideally, across courses) were accessible via their profile page, much like how the profile pages work at other social networks. And if they were using other spaces (blogs, Twitter, etc.), it might also be possible to integrate those content feeds into the Profile page as well.
It is because I believe that student presence is an essential element in effective online courses, my students all blog, and all their work is reflected in their blogs. That allows me to get an overall view of a student's work over the semester and, even better, it gives the student a way to look at all the work they have done and be proud of it. Here's a typical blog:
And I run some aggregate blog streams here:
MLLL-4993 RSS Hub: Indian Epics
I don't know if Canvas would ever become student-centered in that way, but at least for my classes, the students' work IS what the classes are all about, and blogs are the way I can see that participation day by day and week by week. 🙂
That's a better reason than the one I gave. Thanks, Laura!
It's something I've talked with @jared about... although that would be a big shift for Canvas, one of the reasons I think it would be successful is that it would have so many different benefits to both instructors and students! 🙂
If I am correctly understanding what you are asking for, you can see all of a student's posts from a discussion when you use SpeedGrader - no meta data, no context except the name of the discussion, but still very handy. Below is a screenshot example.
I hope this helps,
Hi @kmeeusen ! I don't use these features of Canvas, but the way I understood David's request was as a compilation of a single student's posts across multiple discussions, for a kind of "overall participation" view.
But maybe I was just projecting my idea there because I am kind of obsessed with the need for person-based streams in Canvas. 🙂
In re-reading his question, I believe you are correct. This is an idea that has been asked for many times in the past. There are currently no similar requests open for voting, which is unfortunate.
This is one of the main topics I want to pursue if we get a Connected Learning Group, and we have the votes for it (yay!), so when the Community team has made some changes to the Groups area (I'm not sure what that involves), stefaniesanders told me there would be a Connected Learning Group space which I will use to collect resources relevant to this interconnected-persons approach. 🙂
Just today I saw a great article by Kim Jaxon about the power of seeing a class as a network community:
Rescuing Student Participation Through Digital Platforms - DML Central
Thanks for the link, Laura!
Your willingness to share is amazing!
I think you and I are in very similar situations here, @kmeeusen with heaps and heaps of stuff we have accumulated over time. 🙂
This would also be useful for another reason: if a student makes one problematic post in my class, one of the next things I will want to do is see all of their other posts to see if this is a pattern or a one-off.
I teach middle school, and while my students are, in general, pretty good about using class spaces appropriately, sooner or later one of them will probably use discussions for something other than the intended purpose (such as to make rude comments toward classmates), and being able to quickly locate their other recent posts at that point would be very helpful, since I could then print out that single summary page for my records (and forward it on to parents and administrators as needed, depending on the nature of the comments) and go on a rude comment deleting spree.
Thanks, Kelley. That looks like the view I'm asking for. But from what I can tell from poking around at speed grading, it only shows items that are being graded, and I am not grading the posts individually. Their participation in the discussion is a component of their grade (note: I hereby declare my hatred of grades) but the posts are not themselves graded. That seems to mean that they don't show up in the speed grade view.
You are projecting correctly, Laura
Oh, that is a great point also, @thompsli , so thanks for sharing that here! My understanding is that when Canvas is looking at feature ideas to develop, they are interested in all the different use scenarios, so that is a good one to think about too.
The need for this has come up for our instructors who would like to see overall effort in the discussion forums. Many of our classes are face-to-face and activity in the online discussion forums is often just one part of their overall participation grade in a class. Having to make each forum graded and looking through each post can be time consuming, especially in large enrollment courses.
cosigning on the need for a way to count number of posts. There is also a feature request for this: https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/7990-more-discussion-information-within-grading-area
I'm working on writing a letter of recommendation for a student who was very quiet in class. I'd like to see what they contributed to class discussions online, so I use that as a basis (hopefully) to say that they have insightful things to say, think deeply about the material, etc. I'm utterly shocked that Canvas doesn't have this functionality.
When I go the discussions page, it suggests that it should be possible to search posts by author, but then that doesn't work.
Supporting this feature idea and commenting on behalf of one of our instructors:
Please increase the limit that has been placed on the number of posts in the People section of the website. This is currently set at 10 (the most recent 10). Why can't the full number of posts be retrieved? This would be a way for the instructor to double check the tally she gets from the Engagement Index and also a quick way to review all the posts that each student has done over the semester. This would be much better than going into the week by week record and having to track the posts of each student over the term. If the default can't be changed, then at least there could be an option for the professor to choose to see "all" of the posts a student has done over the term.
I support this idea, but wanted to mention a workaround: designate all discussions as "graded" (with 0 points if you wish) and then on the individual view of the student's grades select "show details". This will show all of the discussions in which the student participated. When you click on the link for each discussion you will see that student's contribution to the discussion.
good work-around and one I'd never thought of -- thanks!
This is a neat workaround, Drew, but I think Paula's suggestion is terrific and what is needed. I don't want the students to have their own "gradebook" cluttered with items that are not being scored. I'd also like to note that you still have to click on each discussion separately when you look at the person's grade items. That's the same as searching for a student's posts in an individual discussion. Maybe it saves a step. It would be easier to have access to every single discussion post by each student, and not have the limits of "recent messages." Maybe instructors can set those restrictions, the way you can change the parameters of your search in an online banking app or site. (When you want to find a bank transaction from six weeks ago, instead of the last thirty days, you can adjust the time range to go back to six weeks ago. Why can't we do that in Canvas?)
The parallel function in Blackboard was "Performance Dashboard," which allowed me to see every post from a student on one page.
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