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Time as a module requirement for progression

Time as a module requirement for progression

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In modules, you can edit the settings to add specific pre-requisites or other requirements. We are requesting to add a time element as a requirement. For example, FAA has a 'seat time' requirement. This is measured in a face to face class with time spent in class. In an online class, we could measure this by time spent in a module. Therefore, is it possible to add a time requirement where professors could choose the amount of time needing to be spent in a module before progressing to the next module?

If yes, could the time spent in modules actually be broken out by time spent on individual pages? For example, in Page Views we can see the date and time a student landed on a page, can we see the time spent on the page.

12 Comments
Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

hunter, thank you for submitting this idea. You might also be interested in  https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/1193-student-activity-report-student-time-log , which is currently open for voting and in Product Radar status, and https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/7915-add-a-time-to-complete-assignment-time-stamp-field" modif... , which is open for voting.

chofer
Community Coach
Community Coach

I'm wondering how this could actually be measured.  What happens if someone is navigating a course and leaves his/her desk for "x" amount of time while still logged in.  The student hasn't actually done anything in the course, but yet the time is still ticking away.  How would you know if someone was actually working within a module or not...especially for a totally online course?  I could see where this might require a lot of back-tracking to see user activity in a course.

hunter
Community Member

Chris, I have that same concern. On our campus, our IT log you out after 2 hours 'lack of interaction'.  However, that does not answer the question of how 'active' a student was during the time they were logged in. You can log in and then go watch a movie. The FAA requires 'seat time' to be logged for ground courses and at the moment this is my best option but I am open to what others have done. I am sure I am not the first school dealing with FAA regulations.

On a side note, this question for an online class that is not asked of a face to face class cracks me up. We assume because students are in their seats that they are active when in reality they could be half asleep or playing on their phones. 

hunter
Community Member

Stefanie

Thank you for these two links, I voted for them as well. The first link might work for our needs.

u0560079
Surveyor

How to vote up for a request that have been archived? Thanks!

Stefanie
Community Team
Community Team

 @u0560079 ‌, this idea is open for voting; just make sure you're logged in to see the Vote Up | Vote Down arrows. Archived ideas can no longer be voted upon, but anyone who wants to do so can resubmit it as new to put it forward for a new round of consideration by the Community.

kmeeusen
Community Coach
Community Coach

hunter

I guess I have the polar-opposite concern of  @chofer ‌, What about the top 10 - 20 percent of your students who actually need less time on task to master the content. They would be penalized by this system, and forced to sit there waiting for the clock to tick, and would be hounding you to open up the next module.

While we may want to keep all our students on task, we do not want to disengage a significant portion of our students.

Technology is not always a solution.

Kelley

u0560079
Surveyor

Done. Thanks!

hunter
Community Member

Kelley

In most cases I agree 100% with you, allowing students to work as needed is part of personalized learning. In the case, I share, we have a federal regulation which requires proof of 'seat' time. Too bad the government doesn't catch up to learner-centered thinking.

Jen

kmeeusen
Community Coach
Community Coach

Hi hunter

Ah yes, and thanks for the clarification.

Do not get me started on the Feds and their 1950s approach to education policy.  We have both a commercial pilot program and aeronautics Tech at our school. However, State is not much better and they just last years started letting Cosmetology programs start using online to replace a percentage of their required seat times.

Kelley

cholling
Adventurer III

hunter‌ -- I agree completely with you about "engagement" with butt-in-seat students -- who knows where their minds are. I certainly know I've been guilty of being somewhere physically but in a completely different universe mentally. And,  @kmeeusen ‌ -- I totally see your point about those students who are able to complete earlier than the required time. It seems (And I know I'm not a programmer by trade) that it could be a simple if-then statement -- if "submitted" then allow students to move on and override time requirement. Of course, that presupposes that the module contains something that needs to be submitted.

And being the cynic that I am, I'd be happy to let module requirements just sit and stew to get DocViewer up to the capability that we had in Crocodoc and to be told that the Quiz tool would roll out VERY SOON!!! Seventh heaven status for those two!!

tgleave
Community Member

I would like a feature that requires a certain amount of time to elapse before a person can post on the discussions. I add videos to the discussions and I know students aren't watching the whole video before they are posting. I would like a feature that allows you to set how much time they have to be on that page before they can post to that discussion. This would really help students spend the time they need to in order to do the assignment correctly and get all the information that you intended them to. I hope this is something the same