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Word count for Speedgrader (DocViewer) grading

Word count for Speedgrader (DocViewer) grading

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This idea has been developed and is On Canvas Beta  How do I access the Canvas beta environment?

For more information, please read through the  Canvas Release Notes (2021-11-20).


It would be extremely helpful for student submissions to also include a word count when we are correcting them on Speedgrader through DocViewer.

Thank you!

 

Comments from Instructure

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Hello, all! Just a quick note to share that this idea is currently being worked on. There are a couple things to consider in this request and we will need to address them in iterations.

Our first step is to add word count to SpeedGrader for text entry assignments. Our currently plan is for this to be available in November.

Our next step is to do some additional scoping for how to accomplish this with files uploaded and viewed through DocViewer. More to come on this as we look into if this can be accurately and consistently made available.

148 Comments
lewisale
Community Champion

I hope Canvas adds this feature because the process of downloading a document just to check the word count takes time when considering how many assignments we grade.  I was wondering if anyone has heard any feedback from Canvas about this idea?

roniabusaad
Community Member

I'm also astonished they have yet to integrate this feature. In the

meantime, I've installed a Chrome plug-in called Word Count that at least

allows me to highlight and right click to see how many words there are.

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Steven_S
Community Champion

 @bcarnes when you are logged into this site there are voting buttons near the top of the page.  It looks like this: 337060_vote.PNG

Steven_S
Community Champion

A word count integrated into speedgrader would be very helpful!  I have seen ideas that canvas directly rejects, and since that is not the response here, I doubt the delay in adding this feature is caused by a fundamental objection. 

 

In the meantime, most submissions that require a wordcount, also need to be checked for plagiarism.  Many plagiarism checkers also provide a wordcount, and so encouraging canvas integrations with plagiarism checkers could accomplish both.  I believe there are already integrations for programs like turnitin and unicheck, if the word count calculated in those is not displayed through the speedgrader, perhaps an idea to add that to the display would help solve whatever problem is in the way of canvas directly providing a wordcount.  Also, here's an idea for adding an integration with grammarly, because that's the program we use Smiley Happy https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/15901-grammarlyedu-integration 

tcarroll1
Community Member

This would be very helpful, especially for PDF documents. It doesn't even need to be 100% accurate. Anything within 5% would probably be good enough for most of us!

JamesAshby
Community Contributor

Hi everyone. I developed a simple browser enhancement, driven by TamperMonkey, that adds a word count directly into Speedgrader. Check out the install guide and let me know if it helps: Speedgrader Word Count.

jfryer
Community Member

Please help us by adding the word count feature to discussions for students and teachers. I’ve seen multiple customer requests and support posts asking for this. As educators, we would be incredibly grateful, as our students would be in a much better position to be successful. Thank you in advance for addressing this and taking action with solutions.

mcphersona7
Community Participant

I couldn't get it to work, I tried to debug and found that since speedgrader was being loaded in an iframe extensions such as Tampermonkey (and even custom Canvas theme JS as the JS in my case is hosted on some other instructure domain) could not touch any of it due to Same-origin policy - Wikipedia which only appears to be able to be turned off by running Chrome with a flag that kills this security feature. Since extensions run locally to the user Chrome seems to still kill access to iframe content.

Does your TamperMonkey script still work for you or has a change to Canvas/Speedgrader killed it? 

JamesAshby
Community Contributor

Thanks for the heads up! Let me look into it and get back to you.

jknox1
Community Member

This would be a simple option to include and would be very helpful as assignments often have a word count minimum. Having a page minimum is too easily manipulated with font, margins, etc. 

lewisale
Community Champion

538b2fa8965d0a35076d47b01ee0a336c344953e342c21c84755df3fb83de749 thanks for sharing your Speedgrader Word Count resource you developed.  I was able to add your browser enhancement, and I found the word count accurate.  Recently, I noticed the word count, unfortunately, doesn't appear anymore, and I wondered if perhaps Google or Chrome made updates that impacted the tool. 😞   

-Alex

JamesAshby
Community Contributor

 @lewisale ‌ Thanks for the heads up! Turns out Canvas did tweak the HTML without me realizing it. I've adjusted the script. If you click the Tampermonkey icon in the upper right corner of your browser and choose "Check for userscript updates", the script should update automatically. Let me know if it's working at that point! I'll start testing this when new updates are released in case Canvas adjusts anything else.

JamesAshby
Community Contributor

 @mcphersona7 ‌: sorry for the delayed response. I've had my hands full with end-of-term stuff and haven't had a chance to look into this more. But the enhancement is still working for me on the latest version of Chrome, so I'm not sure why it isn't working for you. If you're still having trouble, can you send me a direct message and let me know what specific error is displaying in your Chrome console?

mcphersona7
Community Participant

Hi James,

I just went back and tried it again, I realise now that our speedgrader documents load from canvadocs-syd.instructure.com rather than just canvadocs.instructure.com

It works for me now, thank you!

Edit: Maybe change line 5 to "// @include      https://canvadocs*.instructure.com/*"

lewisale
Community Champion

538b2fa8965d0a35076d47b01ee0a336c344953e342c21c84755df3fb83de749‌ thank you SO much! I am back in business with the word count. 🙂

-Alex

JamesAshby
Community Contributor

 @mcphersona7  Oh great, thanks! I'll make that change.

cadman_shane
Community Participant

Hi James! I finally got around to adding it and it works great. Thank you!!!

mathieu
Community Participant

This seems pretty simple from a programming point of view. This has been a feature suggestion for nearly 5 years and nothing has been done yet?

annmarierill
Community Member

We just moved to Canvas, and our instructors are desperate for the word count feature, especially when trying to grade discussion posts. I was surprised to see that it is not already a feature--a feature that we did have in what was a less-robust LMS that we used over the past 8 years.

Sibel
Community Member

Hi Community Team, is there any updates on this issue/idea?