Manual Grading What Students See

[brent_scholar]

I am not a fan of the new grading policy that Canvas thought would be great to implement. It is more complicated and confusing and has caused more issues than it is worth. Besides the fact when we import grades from an outside entity Canvas marks EVERYTHING LATE, when I decided to get in front of it with the students this week, I changed the grades to manual, so they would not see anything until I could correct all 108 x 2 assignments manually to not be late. (How about a feature to not mark things late for everyone?). I digress...

Well, they could not see their grades, but they were still marked late and I got a barrage of emails of student yelling their work was not late.  Attached is a screen shot a student nicely offered up for me to share. There is the eyeball but all they see is the RED LATE.

If we are going to hide the grading, then 100% of it should be hidden.

Please correct this and the import process for grades from outside the forum.

Frustrated with Canvas,

Brent

[josephclaytonha]

Hey Brent,

I've read over your problem with my co-workers a few times. We aren't 100% sure why this problem is showing up for you. Could you provide more details about what outside entity you are importing grades from, and also how that import is happening? We may be able to find an answer so you don't have to worry about this again, but we don't have quite enough information yet. 

Thanks! 

[brent_scholar]

Hi Joseph,

Thank you for reviewing this. I am happy to provide more details.

We have integrated Perusall into Canvas. The due date passes and when I indicate to Perusall to release grades and import to Canvas, when they hit Canvas, they are marked late. This is because I have a due date in Canvas that has passed.

If I do not use the auto-late policy, it really just turns the cells blue. After a few notifications about this, students stop worrying that it is marked late because no points were deducted.

If I do use the auto-late policy, such as 10% grade reduction every day, then when I have the grades pushed, it might be called LTI 1.1 (but I am not a tech person, I am just copying what someone else wrote me) it turns the cell blue, marks it late, and then deducts points. 

If I do an upload of a .CSV after the due date, I have not experienced them being marked late.

In either case if I am hiding the grades, to avoid a panic, it still shows late to the student until I go in manually to change it from late to none or missing.

I hope that helps and if you have a solution that would be great.

Brent

[venitk]

Just a heads up about the late work policy setting--I have never used this setting because the math was sort of wonky and not intuitive for how my instructors think of late policies. I'm sorry I don't have a link for a reference, but I think the deal was the deducted points come off the top of the assignment, not the grade the student earned. But again, I'm not sure.

Anyway, my point is, perhaps not using the late work policy would be the answer, both because students would relax and and perhaps it's also not doing the math you would expect it would.