Outcomes and Banks in Quizzes.Next

[bbennett2]

I'm working on creating help videos for Quizzes.Next for my teachers and I've run into an issue with Quizzes.Next and aligning outcomes. As I'm playing, existing banks or outcomes don't seem to appear in the new quiz builder.

Process

I started by creating a couple of Question Banks in the original quiz editor. I also imported Account-level Outcomes and then created a couple of Course level Outcomes. I then linked those to the Question Banks I created earlier. Then, I created a new assignment using Quizzes.Next. 

Expected

I expected to be able to pull questions and link outcomes from the exiting banks and Outcomes. I'm running into a couple of different problems.

Question Banks

These seem to be created separately from Course-level banks by Quizzes.Next. This poses a problem as several teachers in our institution already have Question Banks created. I know I can migrate quizzes to the new format and sort questions into new banks, but it would be nice to be able to access those resources which already exist.

Additionally, these item banks are now harder to find because you have to either A) enter an existing quiz to modify banks, or B) start an empty quiz to access and modify banks.

Outcomes

There are two problems with Outcomes right now:

1. When aligning an Outcome to a Quizzes.Next assignment, the Outcome picker doesn't show at all at the Quiz level (top) or at the question level (individually).
2. Clicking on Item Banks at the top, I can create a bank and get the Outcome picker to appear, but it only includes Account-level Outcomes, not the Outcomes created at the Course level.

I know these menus are specifically labeled as Institution Outcomes, but again - we have several users creating their own Outcomes because the Institution defaults use a different scale or language that teachers want to modify for students.

I may be missing something and I know this is still a new tool. Any guidance on any of these problems?

[MattHanes]

Hey bbennett@elkhart.k12.in.us,

I hope this might address at least one of your concerns. If you import Outcomes into a course, it takes anywhere from 24 to 48 hours (in my experience) before they are available in Quizzes.next. There is some kind of nightly process that runs to add the outcomes into Quizzes.next. 

[ssimpso4 · Accepted solution]

I've discovered the 'only institution outcomes' limitation and that poses a problem given our teachers' desire to create their own outcomes and attach them to Quizzes.Next quizzes and question items.

[Stefanie]

ssimpso4‌, earlier today I saw a feature idea for that very thing: https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/12091-allow-course-outcomes-to-align-to-item-banks 

[krgiffith]

Hi Brian,

Did you find in the 24-48 hour window the outcomes appear? It's been about 12 for me and I just keep refreshing! 

[bbennett2]

The outcomes came in, but there is another issue where they don't report back to the Outcomes report in the Learning Mastery gradebook, which is another strike against Quizzes.Next for us right now.

[jeannesamuel]

Is that still the case? Because that seems to be what I am experiencing. I can assign a course-level outcome to a quizzes.next but after the quiz has been taken, it does not show up in Learning Mastery Gradebook. 

[dbourne]

So annoying that 10 months later there is still a delay. It difficult for instructional designers to test new features and develop a migration strategy with the 24 hr delay with LTI version of Next / New.