Anybody using the LTI integration with TurnItIn?
If You are using the LTI version of Turnitin with Canvas, you can submit on behalf of a student using the Turnitin.com website to an assignment created in Canvas through the LTI tool. To test this, I set up an assignment for the Turnitin LTI in Canvas. Then I logged into Turnitin.com and navigated to the assignment:
We do and it has been working well.
What kinds of issues do faculty and students typically have?
So far the biggest issue has been that instructors are not able to upload files on a student's behalf or in any other way. Instructors have to create a separate Turnitin class via the Turnitin website if they need to upload a student paper they suspect has been plagiarized. We migrated from ANGEL last year and instructor were used to the fact that they could upload student papers themselves if needed to check for originality.
Elisabeth Craft, it's true that an instructor has to log into the Turnitin "back door" to submit a file on behalf of a student; however, the instructor shouldn't need to create a separate class. There's a direct submit tab that bypasses the classes. It's not ideal, but it's faster than creating otherwise-unneeded classes in Turnitin.
We recently turned it on for our staff to use. From what I understand, the API Turnitin way will be going away no earlier than 4th quarter of this year. So, we worked with our library staff at our campus to get the necessary info to use the LTI method. So far, I really like what I see...and it's cool that you can grade from the Turnitin interface, and it will pass the grade back to the Canvas gradebook.
I too like the fact that you post a grade in Grademark and it comes back to Grades and SpeedGrader through LTI. But this is at the expense of several great canvas features that we definitely do not want to lose. (Multiple file submissions, individual extensions to student submissions, the new Moderation and second marking tools, Turnitin availability (uptime) issues)
In one breath, the Turnitin integrations team are talking about only depreciating the "open API", then in the next breath they say that Canvas themselves are pushing for the depreciation of the "Canvas API" as well.
Below is an excerpt from and email I received fromTurnitin integrations team themselves today.
We are not back tracking on the deprecation of the Open API. This is very much still happening for a majority of the institutions in the UK with custom learning management systems by end of year. ...a majority of the Open API customers will have adopted LTI or another supported integration by end of this year.
I would like you to understand the move to LTI was not only driven by us, but also by our partners like Canvas. Canvas want to deprecate the legacy Canvas integration just like we do and are supportive of our move to LTI.
SO which is it?... Are Canvas driving the move to LTI and pushing to have the Canvas API removed?
Or like in the second quote, we will have the option to use "another supported integration" by which I mean Canvas API moving forwards...?
All quite confusing.
I too like the fact that you post a grade in Grademark and it comes back to Grades and SpeedGrader through LTI. But this is at the expense of several great canvas features that we definitely do not want to lose.
Another of the great Canvas features that we definitely do not want to lose is the ability to measure learning mastery through the use of outcomes. We don't want teachers to use Turnitin rubrics at the expense of using the rubrics-with-aligned-outcomes we've so carefully created for use in the Canvas SpeedGrader. However, one currently cannot add a rubric to an assignment after one has created it as an External Tool type assignment. So when this feature idea opens for voting next month, please consider giving it your upvote: LTI External Tools - Ability to Add Rubric
Hey Susan Nugent! I published a digest of stuff about the Turnitin LTI earlier today: The specified item was not found.. I hope it is helpful information.
Hey Dallas E Hulsey, when I clicked on your link to the Canvas and Turnitin page I received this message: "Access to this place or content is restricted. If you think this is a mistake, please contact your administrator or the person who directed you here." Is the page or blog restricted from view? You know I'd like to read it!
Hi, Stefanie Sanders! Yeah, I corrected some typing errors, and with a blog a moderator has to approve the content and has to reapprove the content each time I make changes. I think Scott reapproved the content this morning. Can you see it now? I am still learning to use Jive!
You are exactly right. I can now access your excellent resource, and while I'm at it, I'll check out the ability to link to it in a post: The specified item was not found. ...and there it is. Awesome!
I noticed the link to Dallas E Hulsey content is gone from this thread so I adding it back - Canvas and Turnitin
We have been experimenting with the LTI integration of Turnitin here at the University of Hull.
We have found it breaks several of the features that we love in Canvas Assignments.
The individual extension to submission feature cannot work with Turnitin as changing the date for an individual has no link to the turnitin class deadline.
Using Turnitin LTI tool as the point of submission, which it forces you to do, means you can no longer submit multiple files.
Turnitin LTI exposes the students to Turnitin performance issues.
The new Beta moderation tools cannot be used if the Turnitin LTI tool is used for assessment.
Has anyone else experienced these problems with the LTI tool? Would love to hear back from you.
Thank you for such a detailed list. That is very helpful. We never used the API option in Canvas so we went straight to the LTI option when we integrated. This fall was our first semester with instructors using the integration. It is always helpful to know about the pitfalls of the integration. TurnItIn, in my experience, is not good at communicating their processes or providing support.
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