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sarah_mcmanus
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HELP!! - Math and Jaws

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Do any of your students use Jaws to read math equations produced by the Canvas math equation editor?  I cannot get it to read the equations (e.g., quadratic formula) properly.  HELP!!!

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szw151
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Sarah, I think the reason the MathML is not generating for you is that you are adding spaces in your equations. If you type 2 + 2 = 4 instead of 2+2=4, the spaces will interfere with the math code being generated.

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jeb5123
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Hi Sarah,

Do you have a screenshot of the equation you can share?

Is this in the equation creation process, or after it is saved to a page/other?

The equations that are created through the equation editor should be adding a minimum of LaTex as the alt text of the equation, and a maximum of integrating a MathML version of the equation after the image as screenreader only content when a page/question text/etc. is saved.

I'm just wondering what the context where you cannot get the equation to read is.

Here is a video of how Jaws is reading the equations I created using the math editor. This is confusing for students.

I have heard that installing MathPlayer will help. I tried installing MathPlayer yesterday but it would not install properly. I am going to try again.

Sarah McManus, Ph.D.

Director | Digital Learning

Education Services for the Deaf and Blind

North Carolina Department of Public Instruction

Raleigh, NC

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jeb5123
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Hi Sarah,

I don't see a video in your post. Can you host it on Youtube and include it so that I can hear?

jeb5123
Community Contributor

Hi again,

Sorry, someone just pointed out that the PPT contains audio to me.

Did you create all 3 of those equations into one Equation image or did you create each one individually using the equation editor?

Each one separately.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

szw151
Community Participant

Sarah, I think the reason the MathML is not generating for you is that you are adding spaces in your equations. If you type 2 + 2 = 4 instead of 2+2=4, the spaces will interfere with the math code being generated.

Thank you for the advice! I will delete the spaces and see how it works.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

Thank you again for your help.  Do you know how to get the screen reader to read 5! as 5 factorial?

szw151
Community Participant

My screen reader says, "five exclaim" no matter how I put 5! on the page. And that is true in Canvas and in our other content management system that supports math code. I tried MathMl there and text and LaTeX in Canvas via the math editor. I think that's because the exclamation point is set in JAWS settings to read as "exclaim" and JAWS can't read it differently just because it's next to a number. You can change the settings so that JAWS says "factorial" when it comes to a !, but then it would read them all that way even when they are not used in a math context. I would love to know if someone else has a solution for this.