[ARCHIVED] What happens if I change a requirement in Module after work submitted?

[llong4]

I have a module set up where every assignment must be done in sequential order. FOr one of the assignments, I have the requirement set to "Submit." I have had some students submit bogus work and I want the module to relock for them until they fix the work they submitted. I also have this module set as a prerequisite for another module. I would like the second module to relock as well until they resubmit the assignment in the first module. Is this possible without messing up any of the students who did everything correctly?

Basically, I want to change an assignment requirement from "Submitted" to "Score at least an "80%"? Would students that had already completed the assignment and score at least 80% have to go back and do anything else? Would the students that completed it before the change and had not reached  80%, have to go back and do so if they had already completed the assignment and the module?

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[erinhmcmillan · Accepted solution]

Hi, Liza,

If students have already fulfilled the requirement, when you make the change Canvas will ask you if you want to re-lock the modules for all students or if you want to let the students continue in the course. That step is shown in this lesson: How do I add requirements to a module?  

Hope that helps!

Erin

[llong4]

Thank you!

[Ltambellini]

Yes, but if you choose to "let the students continue" and not relock, is it locked for students that didn't complete the module and unlocked for those that did previously complete it?  Or is it unlocked now for everyone?  I'm not clear if "let the students continue" means all students or just those that previously completed the prerequisite.  

[Liz-du-Plessis]

If some students have posted to a discussion, what happens to their submissions if I re-lock the module? The guide says re-locking will "require students to complete the requirements again." Will their work be lost?

(I think this may have just happened to me. I also moved the discussion from one module to another before re-locking.)

[James]

@Liz-du-Plessis 

Relocking does not affect submissions.

When it says the students will be required to complete the requirements again, it means the module item requirements not the assignments themselves.

Moving discussions from one module to another might prevent students from proceeding in the new module depending on the requirement settings and might allow student to proceed in the old module who weren't able to before.

A student may need to redo a submission if their previous submission doesn't meet the requirement settings after you relock. For example, if you change it from must view to a minimum score, then those below that score would not meet the requirement.

Module item requirements do not necessarily have to have any blocking action with them. You can prevent access to other assignments with them. You can also use them as a check-off mechanism so people know when they've completed something without preventing them from moving on. Some of my better students liked that when I did it, but my modules page got so big and slow than I took it out. Now I use modules for badges (credentials) so the checkmarks serve as a way of seeing what they need to do to complete that badge.

[Liz-du-Plessis]

James, thanks for the quick reply! If a student needs to redo a submission (as you mention in your 3rd sentence), would their initial submission still be visible to the instructor?

[James]

@Liz-du-Plessis 

Canvas keeps all assignment submissions. In SpeedGrader, there's a drop-down box to view previous submissions.

[Liz-du-Plessis]

Also, I moved/dragged the discussion item from one module to another. (I'm trying to determine if a student's discussion post could have gotten lost one way or another).

[James]

@Liz-du-Plessis 

Merely changing the module an assignment is in should not cause any discussions to be lost. For the most parts, modules are a way of organizing things -- some of those things might be assignments. I went in and put a completed discussion into a locked module and the previous submissions still show up in the gradebook and in SpeedGrader.

What may cause a grade to disappear is changing who it is assigned to. This can happen with mastery paths or differentiated assignments.

Differentiated assignments are assignments that are only assigned to certain sections, students, or groups. The notes on differentiated assignments say that the students can only view assignments assigned to them and that the cells are grayed out in the gradebook and grades cannot be assigned.

The same experience is true for SpeedGrader. You do not see anything for students who are not assigned that assignment. I just had a small team discussion this last week and it only shows me the people that were assigned that particular version of the discussion (each discussion was a separate assignment).

If I remove a student from an assignment then I can no longer see their discussion within the gradebook or SpeedGrader. However, if I go into the discussion itself, their replies are still there.

Adding that student to a different discussion will not cause their posts to transfer since it is a completely different assignment. You would be able to see that student's name in SpeedGrader, but not their work. They have no work for the new assignment, it's all with the old assignment, but since that's no longer assigned, you cannot see it in SpeedGrader or the Gradebook.

If I go back and re-assign them to the discussion they were originally in, then it shows me their responses in SpeedGrader and the Gradebook.

If you are using Mastery Paths, then it uses differentiated assignments behind the scenes and if they go down a different path, their discussion may seem to disappear everywhere except for in the actual discussion. If you're not using Mastery Paths, then you should know whether you changed who was assigned something.

I don't use Mastery Paths, so I do not know whether changing requirements for a module that locked the student out of an assignment used to determine paths then prevents assignments that might be used in the path. If you're not using Mastery Paths, then you don't need to worry about it. If you are using Mastery Paths, the documentation says to make sure you have everything set up before you publish the course.