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[Modules] Customizable Checklists to Add to Modules This is a feature that I was expecting to find in Canvas because I have used it in D2L Brightspace. A checklist is something that is added to a module and created by the instructor. Here's an ... |
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11-17-2021
02:36 PM
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This is a very exciting step, but I have a few questions/concerns.
The static images for Canvas Help Chat appear to only go to a bot. Will institutions paying for the live 24-7 support see an additional option for live support in that same place?
Proactive Messages calls out the links to guides, release notes, and images.
What populates that?
What about the Vimeo media you've produced?
Can local admins add things?
Can local admins remove things?
Can instructors add thing if it is in their course?
Can instructors remove thing if it is in their course?
If instructors can update these, will those changes be available in the Select Components area of course copy?
Will users have a place to toggle this whole situation on and off?
This will be a nightmare when attempting to make locally relevant video documentation if the answer to g isn't "Yes, and that toggle is available for the Test Student too!"
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09-27-2021
08:07 AM
13 Kudos
I am never sure if it is more useful to repeat comments that I find particularly important, or to just Kudos them. I am going to try to organize my own thoughts mixed in with what others have said. On the up side, I think I will be able to cluster things in a way that makes logical sense to me. On the downside, this will likely be an unreadably long wall of text. Apologies in advance.
Groups is a fantastic tool, that does way more than what instructors want it to do the vast majority of the time. I strongly believe that Groups needs to be broken into two separate tools. One that is a slightly improved version of what is already there, which I will be referring to as “Project Groups”, and a second tool that allows for the more common uses without the additional Groups work space, which I will be referring to as “Quick Groups”.
Quick Groups are needed in situations where instructors are having students do an activity that requires only a single Canvas tool, and/or no out of class time to do. It should not create the Group home area in the left-hand navigation.
Quick Groups (both the Quick Group Set AND the individual Quick Groups) should be an option when determining delineation of the following things: Announcements, Assignments, Discussions, Page access, File access, Quizzes, Module access, and Collaborations. This will remove the need to type each student’s name in the “Assign to” area when only trying to do group discussions (or similar delineation). Any Quick Group Set or individual Quick Group that was not selected should be unable to even see the item.
Project Groups (both the Project Group Set AND the individual Project Groups) should be an option when determining delineation of the following things: Announcements, Assignments, Discussions, Page access, File access, Quizzes, Module access, and Collaborations. Assigning an item this way should provide a popup notification that the item will be created in each Project Group area as its own unique item. This will prevent the need to go into each groups area to recreate an announcement/page/etc that applies to a few of your many groups. Any Project Group Set or individual Project Group that was not selected should be unable to see the item.
Project Groups need to have a course name written below the Project Group name when being shown in the left-hand navigation. The inability to tell which course each of the “Group 1” groups a student is in is awful. Quick Groups should not appear there at all.
The Projects Groups area needs the first Breadcrumb at the top of the screen to ALWAYS be the original course, not just when on the Home area.
Project Groups needs a Settings area similar to the main course, so that Navigation, homepage, and permissions can be set. Preferably, these options would be available at creation, so that each group can inherit the settings.
Enabling the use of Project Groups or Quick Groups should reveal a checkbox for optional different due dates per group.
Copy Course Components needs another item selection for Project Groups and Quick Groups. Obviously, it would not move user enrollment, but the ability to copy the setup for both Project Groups and Quick Groups would be a boon. Maintaining group delineation for other tools would be vital.
Project Groups and Quick Groups need improved membership management. Selecting multiple users at once for click/drag, forced notifications when new enrollments occur to help instructors keep up on group enrollment, ability to move users between groups without breaking old submissions (potentially the most complicated ask on this list due to the number of unique interactions it could branch into).
Project Groups and Quick Groups set up to auto-enroll should update when new users are added to the course.
Project Groups and Quick Groups both need a self-signup without needing People to be enabled. Include a setting that functions as an end date where users will be assigned randomly if they fail to choose by the end date.
Project Groups or Quick Groups used for discussions should have a read-only option to allow other groups to read, but not participate, discussions held by other groups.
Make sure that Project Groups and Quick Groups are both able to function with integrations (when the integration allows) to keep things in synch.
https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/Idea-Conversations/Speedgrader-support-for-ungrouped-discussion-posts/idi-p/412275 This is broken. This is not an idea for improvement, this is an observation of something that is broken and needs to be fixed. Anyone who says this is intended functionality needs a stern talking-to by a motherly figure who is “not mad, just disappointed”.
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07-21-2021
07:23 AM
18 Kudos
The University of Wisconsin release notes teams has a lot of feedback about this. I am going to place it all in this one comment to try to consolidate.
New Analytics features being unavailable in Beta is a thorn in our side. Working to make New Analytics available in Beta would be nice for testing.
This feature is significantly less useful than it could be if the criteria could be set on a course-by-course level. Different instructors will have different metrics they will be looking for. Having the metrics determined at the University level would already remove the usefulness for instructors, and here at the University of Wisconsin System, we would need to decide for the entire state due to our shared instance.
Changing which criteria are checked needs to update the data presented to the instructor. Since this is unavailable for testing, it may already do this. If not it is important that adjusting criteria impacts the data presented, rather than showing static information that relates to now unused criteria.
We recommend a rebranding for this tool. Attendance is already used with the Role Call tool, along with other 3rd party tools. We predict confusion for instructors when there is a Grade item created by Role Call named attendance, and also an Attendance tool in New Analytics (which has no impact on the Grade item). Even something as simple as “Digital Attendance” or “Student Digital Attendance” provides a bit more differentiation.
The criteria item “Course Access” needs clarification. It says “views a page”, but it is unclear if that means “views a webpage of the course” or “views a Page tool item”. The name implies the first, but the description leans towards the second, while still being ambiguous.
The criteria item “Conferences” needs clarification. It says “Student joins a web conference”, but it seems unlikely to us that this tool is prepared to integrate with all of the available 3rd party conferencing tools. The tool should explicitly mention which conferencing tool(s) it is able to track.
It seems likely that there will be feedback asking that these metrics can be pushed to the Grades area. We ask that if this if that is ever the case that this does not create a Grade item automatically, and instead need to be manually turned on by the instructor on a course-by-course basis.
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05-19-2021
01:07 PM
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@erinhmcmillan We know that we have users on and working past the midnight hour. We are also concerned about our SIS data during these times. Our SIS data pushes through Kimono, and we would like to ensure that these outages would not prevent those nightly ingestions.
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04-20-2021
01:51 PM
18 Kudos
I could use some clarity on the timing of the window. The post says they would be two hours form midnight-4:00am. Does this mean we could opt to have our from 2:00-4:00am, or that Instructure would have variable start times anywhere in the midnight-4:00am range.
We look forward to this update, but traffic patterns from our larger schools show that usage doesn't truly drop off until 2:00am. If we had a way to opt into specific time ranges (or if the times were pushed from 2:00-6:00am) it would be an improvement for us.
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03-11-2021
08:44 AM
Based on our testing, the change to course availability has the potential to reopen years worth of courses to students.
Any instructor that put on a start date, but left the end date open (relying on Term End Date) will have their course open back up onto dashboards.
This is especially concerning, as some of our campuses push from SIS without end dates. We believe that this means all old courses for those campuses will reopen to Dashboard.
If either of our tested results are accurate, this will cause BIG trouble.
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02-19-2021
09:33 AM
@Steven_S I am Happy to provide the background. I'm a cheat. A fraud. A plagiarize. This is not my idea.
The post I made to start all of this is a copy/paste from and idea that has since been moved to a place I can no longer see. I believe the materials I stole were originally posted by @callinger, but the information I tracked down has her by another name. It looks like that might be callinger's real name, and I don't want to accidentally dox anyone.
I mentioned that I can no longer see the original. It took some digging to find that out, but the link to that post is here: https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/11726
If anyone else is able to see those posts, I would want to note that the reason I recreated this idea here is because the moderators there told us that would be our best course of action.
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02-03-2021
06:54 AM
@straussi
I wish there was a "like" or "agree" button available in this thread so I could back up your comment without having to make a whole additional post.
Beta, Test, and Student View all have the banner. There is a not insignificant number of instructors that manage to zone that out too, so even the banner won't catch everyone. It would be a big help though.
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01-21-2021
08:28 AM
I work with admins and trainers across UW-System and the common sentiment from our last meeting is that the "View Ungraded as 0" is a problem. There is some disagreement about whether it can be built in a way that is at all function, and exactly what that would look like, but we have some agreement on minimum changes needed before it should be pushed.
Warning box is longer than what users will read.
Wordsmith to reduce length of warning is needed. People see a popup that long and they just blindly accept the terms and conditions in front of them.
and/or use some combination of bold/italics/underline/bullet points to highlight key takeaways.
A one time popup that is never seen again is not enough. Even experienced users are going to forget about this warning. Anyone just learning the system won't understand what they have been shown, and won't know how to get the warning back so they can figure it out later.
Some of us think that this should show up every time without fail.
Some of us think have a checkbox for "do not show again" that needs to be checked to have the warning removed would be okay.
If there is a checkbox for "do not show again", have that checkbox only remove the warning from that one course, not across the account.
View Ungraded as 0 should turn off on its own every time you navigate out of the Grades area. Student view is very prominent when it is on, and has less detrimental effects if a user forgets it is on.
Long term, what our users actually want is a way to bulk enter 0s across all assignments. The users we are working with used this because they thought this updates the grades area rather than being strictly visual. Grade policy doesn't touch On Paper and No Submission types, and wont allow for self paced course work. One at a time Set Default Grade is too many clicks.
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12-21-2020
06:49 AM
Based on the conversation here, I was surprised to see that the original Student View button is now gone. Perhaps I misunderstood the back and forth, but I expected the talk to result in the original Student View button staying on the Home area.
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12-14-2020
10:26 AM
I would like to third @mpfaff1 and @vanzandt The image alone is not sufficient for the Home area.
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12-07-2020
07:39 AM
@tom_gibbons Setting up your grades to give 0s to missing submissions only works for items that require a digital submission. This means On Paper and No Submission type assignments do not gain this benefit. This is especially problematic for my foreign language and mathematics instructor. Both tend to have hand written work they expect to see during the next class period, and the foreign language courses will have in class spoken assignments. Something that actually addresses those is not needed by all my instructors, but those that do need it need it desperately.
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12-04-2020
10:53 AM
Hello @erin, Thanks for the targeted feedback. I am aware of the Set Default Grade feature, and spend time with the instructors I train to make sure they are using it early and often. Sadly, it does not meet all of my 850+ instructors needs. Many come to me too late in the semester wondering why students grades are inflated, and are overwhelmed by the amount of clicking required to do this for each assignment. Instructors that have a few major papers and exams can do as you suggest with just a bit of annoyance, but instructors with courses requiring daily practice become a nightmare to ensure every missed assignment receives the 0 it needs. I could call out any number of STEM courses, foreign language courses, and writing courses that I have worked with that run into this problem. Instructors who attempt to give many lowstakes chances to practice material find themselves punished at the end of the semester when they find out that they have dozens of assignments that need to have a default grade set. Default Grade is a great tool, but needing to do it that many times introduces frustration chances for user error when when needing to be done multiple times by an already frustrated and frazzled instructor. A "Set Default Grade" that would impact every item in the Grades area would be a massive boon. Sadly, there are a number of instructors that mistakenly thought the "Treat Ungraded As Zero" did that. The name change is a great first step, I just want to see the tool taken further. I hope this helps explain my ask.
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12-03-2020
11:39 AM
I discussed this with other campus admins and it was pointed out to me that getting this tool to actually enter 0s would likely be too much programing before the December release. BUT it would likely be very doable to at least get a notification up that provides the needed clarifications on exactly how this tool works. The information is already here in these very notes. They would just need to be moved from the "Affected User Roles" area into a confirmation window. I still feel the same way @vanzandt, but perhaps this would be an easy first step?
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12-03-2020
06:29 AM
Is there a way we can get a version of "View Ungraded as Zero" that is NOT a visual change only and DOES affect grades?
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10-29-2020
08:59 AM
When attempting to use the Admin Tools to look at the Grade Change activity log, the only combination of filters that seem to work together are "Student" and "Course ID". Is there any documentation beyond what's here to ensure this is not user error? There were a handful of us together and nobody spotted where I was going wrong.
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07-21-2020
12:14 PM
5 Kudos
These are really wonderful developments, but I am concerned that we know when New RCE will be turned on, but don't know when it will be up to snuff. We all recognize that nothing is ever really done being developed, but the fact that we still have a December go-live date when there is so much still being done is worrying. It would be nice if Instructure would provide us at least one semester with a (more-or-less) finished product before it was forced on. We need time to train faculty and update documentation.
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08-28-2019
02:39 PM
5 Kudos
This was a refreshing read. I hope Instructure was taking notes when they went through this post.
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04-05-2019
08:51 AM
I apologize for being unclear in my other post requesting to hear about potential solutions and reasons they were not included in the current implementation. My point is that I do not see any of those, which is why I asked about them in the first place. Perhaps the development team would have insights as to why this is the intended function. You rightly pointed out that I leaped to the assumption that this concern was just not considered, and I would much rather learn about those considerations than continue to hold a false assumption.
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