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a1063023 · ‎11-19-2022

Despite Instructure claiming this to be addressed, I am still seeing problems in this area: * Staff continue to confuse the "Save" vs "Submit" buttons and leave the page after hitting the Submit button thinking they're done (and frankly I think having both of those buttons in view is poor UX — I'm not surprised they're confused) * Staff who are marking 100+ page reports have told me that after some period of time on the page their marks and rubric comments are lost. We shouldn't be expected to continually hit the Save button and re-enter the rubric just because we're marking a large report We have little time in the grading period to reconcile and finalise marks. Every hiccup like this adds considerable friction and annoyance to this process.

a1063023 · ‎10-22-2022

@kyh802 — I can only imagine what you've been through, I'm so sorry to hear. In our case it was "only" a few lengthy honours projects that were annotated with all comments lost. Still, probably a good 10 hours by senior academics down the drain. I tried to escalate this with Canvas at the time and they claimed to understand the problems they are causing us, but that didn't translate into anything on the roadmap as far as I know 😞

a1063023 · ‎10-22-2022

@James — thanks for the detailed comments! I think we must be at cross purposes with the idea of a "save as draft" version of the rubric. Autosaving of rubrics is definitely a recurring problem in that staying on the page too long can lead to data loss, an inadvertent swipe can lead to data loss, etc. When I am marking a 100 page honours report having any kind of data loss is very demoralising... I understand there may have been some improvements to this recently so I hope not to run into that issue again but I'm not holding my breath. 100% agree that unmuting grades is all too easy to forget. I really wish that they could be scheduled or automated (I don't think there's anything in the API about that). This is getting off-topic, but we do indeed struggle with the Canvas interface for the rubrics for our honours / masters project grading. We've tried to design them down to around 12 rows, and we end up with quite long descriptions because there's quite a lot we want to consider in each one. We could send people off to an alternate rubric, or even using a different tool like Google Forms, but currently have decided that despite the interface problems it's better to stay within and rely upon Canvas as much as possible.

a1063023 · ‎10-22-2022

@James — I see your point but I think there are two responses to your comment: * Just because it might be inconvenient to you, it causes actual problems for students now where students get incorrect grades because of staff oversight — I think the tradeoff would be worth it * It would also be great if the rubric could ALSO allow you to "save as draft" (I don't think this has been opened as a feature request yet, but it's certainly necessary when you are grading an assessment after the marks have been posted). That would suit your use case nicely

a1063023 · ‎10-09-2022

@SandraONeil — last time I looked at this (in around March/April) there was no way to convert a new quiz back to an old quiz, nor was there was a way to analyse data input with new quizzes in the old quizzes interface. Luckily for me my quiz with ~300 responses was mostly formative and I could just abandon the data. I’m glad I found out in time because I almost released a quiz that I needed to collate responses for in the new interface and I would have been stuck trawling through each response manually. I rewrote the quiz from scratch in the old quizzes interface 😞

a1063023 · ‎08-05-2022

Thanks for acknowledging this one: "you miss the CSV downloadable format for the reports" — in my cases I can't use New Quizzes until that appears and it's great to hear it's on your radar.

a1063023 · ‎08-05-2022

Thanks for the update, this sounds like a good step forward. I am still worried about the failure mode of when you sit on a rubric marking page for a long time and then when you hit save all your work is lost because the connection has been lost between the page and Canvas. Hopefully that is fixed too... I guess we'll find out 🙂

a1063023 · ‎05-30-2022

Yup, I no longer believe anyone from Canvas looks at this site to inform their roadmap.

a1063023 · ‎05-30-2022

It's been a few years (at least) for this nonsensical limitation to exist, and at least a couple since it was first raised here: https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/Idea-Conversations/Allow-moderate-grading-option-for-a-group-assignment/idi-p/416482 This is causing me real headaches in managing our honours project course (400+ engineering students). (Moderated grading as a whole is a mess because you can't take an average of the grades to finalise a mark, and annotations from assessors are permanently deleted if you "finalise" the grades. But that's beside the point for this particular issue.)

a1063023 · ‎05-24-2022

We have a formal process for students to request extensions, which requires a PDF form to be completed and signed off and later archived appropriately in a central location. Managing this through email in parallel to Canvas is a chore (it's kinda slow to update assignments manually especially if you have more than a few students to process) and difficult to ensure compliance with policies while doing so. It would be really great if Canvas had a built-in way for students to request an extension. It could provide a link to the PDF form, the number of extension days (and hours?) requested (with an option to cap the request at a certain maximum). The course Teacher would be notified of the request, review the documentation, hit approve, and the assignment would automatically update. Even better: if (optionally) no student could be provided an extension without appropriate approval. Finally, nice to have but not essential: a button "download all extension requests" could be provided for offline archiving at the end of the course.

a1063023 · ‎05-18-2022

Could not agree more, hopefully 2022 is the year this idea gets noticed by the Canvas developers (lol)

a1063023 · ‎05-18-2022

I agree, I've had to correct this on a number of occasions. I now use the API to check for it automatically and send out messages to staff, but it's like using a bazooka to kill a mosquito.

a1063023 · ‎05-18-2022

I agree — I have an assignment that is open for the entire duration of the course and the students are intended to upload to it regularly, but many of them miss it because after they upload the first time Canvas basically considers it "done". The only alternative is to have something like 12 duplicate assignments which adds a lot of clutter and logistical overhead.

a1063023 · ‎05-01-2022

I need the ability to "reject" or delete assignment submissions when they do not satisfy requirements of the assessment and the students need to resubmit. I cannot award a grade of zero to indicate this because we use moderated assessment and students wouldn't see the mark I award until too late. Once again I'm disappointed that a discussion for a useful feature in Canvas has languished in the Ideas forum with hundreds of comments for many many years.

a1063023 · ‎03-25-2022

I have just sent out the following message to our entire learning and teaching network across all of science, engineering, comp sci, and maths in our University: New Quizzes in MyUni considered harmful (cannot export data) I have unfortunately discovered this semester that the New Quizzes feature in MyUni can't export the data input through the quiz to a CSV file. I spent some frustrating time with Canvas support staff to investigate, and it's simply not possible. If you currently use MyUni quizzes as a sort of SurveyMonkey/GoogleForms way for students to give you information that you post-process the results to analyse for trends etc., do not even consider using New Quizzes because the data is completely unavailable. New Quizzes is ONLY useful if you are setting up a formative or summative assessment that is explicitly marked (whether automated via multiple choice answers or manually marked via text box inputs). Unfortunately for me in ENG 4001, I have a whole stack of data now stuck in a New Quiz that I can't get out 😞

a1063023 · ‎03-25-2022

Despite being 100% aware of this issue, I just lost data myself because I had been sitting on the Canvas webpage for apparently too long. After entering my marks and writing all my comments in the rubric, I clicked save and everything just disappeared. %$%^$^^%$ Great feeling when you're working on the weekend to try catch up that the last 20 minutes are down the drain.

a1063023 · ‎03-07-2022

In the classic quizzes, you could export all of the student answers to a CSV file. In SurveyMonkey, you can export all student answers to a CSV file. In Google Forms, you can export all student answers to a CSV file (you can even post it to a private URL so it can be queried in real time by a script — neat) In Microsoft Forms, you can export all student answers to an Excel file (you can even link it to Sharepoint so it can be queried in real time by another spreadsheet — neat) In New Quizzes, you cannot get the data out in any useful form. I have 350 students who have answered a quiz about what program they're in, what major they're doing, etc., all for the purposes of collecting that information to get some understanding about the class. Some of this data was intended to be pushed downstream for graduation checks later in the year. I made the mistake of writing my quiz in New Quizzes and I cannot get access to that data in any meaningful way whatsoever. Idea: add "export answers to CSV" button.

a1063023 · ‎03-07-2022

I just started using New Quizzes assuming that you could export the quiz answers from the students. In what universe does it make sense to have a quiz tool where you can't get the results? SurveyMonkey, Google Forms, MS Forms, old quizzes, all trivially allow you to get this data. Now I have to throw away my quizzes and start again.

a1063023 · ‎03-07-2022

I run an honours project course in which all students work in groups. We have around 350 students and 100 groups. It's quite common to require groups to answer surveys/quizzes about their project for various purposes. Unfortunately, if I set up a quiz for this purpose (I'm using "new quizzes"), it can only be answered by individual students, so there's no way within Canvas of identifying which groups have responded and which have not. 75% of my gradebook will be empty. The idea: quizzes should have the same setting as assignments — "This is a group assignment"

a1063023 · ‎01-26-2022

@kyh802 — thanks for sharing that. I get very discouraged by comments like this and wonder if there is any point to putting up ideas into the Canvas Community at all — besides as an opportunity to rant and see how other people are working around the issues.

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