When using the late policy, If a quiz has been allowed to have multiple attempts and is set to take the highest score, If the newest submission is late the late policy overrides the highest score function and applies the policy to the newest score on the test. Has this been caught in the beta testing? I would think that if the teacher allows the highest score grab on the multiple attempts, that it would apply the late policy only if the newest score was the highest, or override the late policy.
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This use case has been considered, though no changes are being pursued at the moment. No configuration will work perfectly for everyone because of the various workflows being used with multiple quiz attempts. And instructors do have a manual override option within their control if they do not want the late policy applied to a grade in the Gradebook.
Our team will continue to watch how this functionality is used generally among instructors and make any adjustments if necessary in a future release.
In our testing of the late and missing policies, we have found the quizzes assignments are not updated by the late/missing policies. Any input?
We have teachers who would love the late policy to work as Jeremy describes, as you monitor this functionality.
We're having this same issue at our institution in a large 800 student course, so manual overrides for this many students is time consuming. Here's a scenario that should be considered.
A student takes a quiz and makes a reasonable 8/10 for a score. They are told and canvas shows it this way that it will use the highest score of their 3 attempts. So that 8/10 should be the absolute lowest they can score now. Now the student is prepping for the exam by using another attempt (after the due date)… they get a perfect 10/10! EXCEPT it is 5 days late so they get a -10 penalty and get a zero. Canvas should be comparing the ZERO and the 8/10 and award the 8. However, Canvas compared before the penalty – then awards the 10 minus 10 penalty for a ZERO. Apply the penalty, then compare the scores – high score wins.
Canvas I am sorry but I agree with Jeremy. The penalty should only apply to late work not work that was turned in on time so why would the penalty apply to a quiz turned in on time? That doesn't encourage students to try again.
Erin I am assuming the manual override is to go and mark it not late?
I am very disappointed with the new gradebook and one penalty for everything. Now we penalize work that was submitted on time. I hope you will consider rewriting this.
How do we manually change it? I changed it to None in the grade tray which erased the score. I went to SpeedGrader and used the Update Score at the bottom and got a grayed out value in the grade area in SpeedGrader. The score does show in the gradebook but this is a lot of steps to fix this issue. Is there an easier way?
Can anyone explain how this works if faculty take the average score? I am confused and will share a screen shot and hope someone can explain this.
I have formulated an idea that folks in this conversation might support: https://community.canvaslms.com/ideas/14282-make-late-policy-affect-only-attempts-submitted-after-th.... It appears Canvas is aware of the problem and is having conversations about it. Still, consider voting up my idea if you think it's what you're looking for.